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MamaLama (212 D)
05 Nov 17 UTC
Germany Solo for 31500?
In the Biggest Game Ever... Germany currently has 14 SCs and looks to be in a good position to solo
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Literary Pugilist (291 D)
04 Nov 17 UTC
NMRs and Civil Disorder
I'm new here can someone please explain how the NMR and CD rules work here. How many times can a power NMR before they go into CD. What happens to the game if one of the powers goes CD? Is it canceled, paused? What happens to your bet? Do you just get it back?
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HBbuc (246 D)
03 Nov 17 UTC
Join chaos game
Really fun, please join!!!

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=32916
(paste whole like not just GameID)
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
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Mod team announcement
peterwiggin has agreed to step down from the moderator team.
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Foxcastle (100 D)
04 Nov 17 UTC
Are countries assigned randomly?
New to this site here, so sorry if this is answered elsewhere that I didn't find. Are countries assigned randomly when a game starts? (I'm noticing in the Championship Belt Game Series that xorxes always plays Austria and captainmeme always plays France, but have not found any setting for choosing a country or assigning preferences or anything.)
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Nov 17 UTC
Uber is kind of cool
So, I dont actually plan to spend money. But I downloaded this cool app called uber. I think its like, taxi cabs or toy cars or something. But they move. They wiggle around and travel places on this cool map that looks a little like real life. I watched this one car strolling down a highway. This is neat. How do I take over one of these cartoon car thingys
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Oct 17 UTC
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Welcoming back Jamiet
Jamiet has agreed to follow site rules and has been unbanned. Welcome back, Jamiet.
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KansasBoyd (25 DX)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Hiliary rigged her nomination
Former interim DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile has come out exposing the Clinton campaign of taking over the DNC prior to her getting the nomination as the party's candidate which gave Clinton the control over the party's finances, strategy and all the money raised.

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brainbomb (290 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Thinking about how to improve America
Socialism, Communism, Authorotarian overthrow of the wealthy and redistribute it to the eternal poverty stricken forgotten workers.
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R3dox (261 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Incomplete orders on the small preview map are a problem.
Not all orders (most notably support orders) are shown on the small preview map of a game and, especially in Gunboat, this is pretty problematic.
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chluke (12292 D(G))
31 Oct 17 UTC
webDiplomacy Grand Slam!
Has anyone completed the webDiplomacy Grand Slam?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
John McCain
Tonight, I had the honor of listening to John McCain in one of his last public addresses.
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brainbomb (290 D)
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Mafia XXXII Official Sign-up Thread
Join Tom Bombadil and myself for the 32nd Webdip Mafia game. Starts Wed NOV. 1. See inside for glory and honor
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
7 Australian politicians Removed form parliment.
7 politicians were found to be dual citizeb=ns and have been elected including the Deputy Prime Minister and the depetu leader of the national party. 2 Ministers..5 senators..
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Ogion (3882 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Yet another (kind of gross) thought experiment (GOT Spoiler)
So, when Trump gets impeached and removed...
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Randomizer (722 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
Criminal Friends of Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html

Former Trump friend Manafort has 3 different US passports under his own name and at least one under a fake name that's he's used to travel and possibly move money. The first to be indicted and a step up the ladder of Republican lies about what was happening during the election campaign.
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grahamso1 (728 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Detailed rules for a game
I am in a game and one player has either held all his units or been absent for 7 consecutive phases (!)
Is there a way to see for the game I am in what the detailed set up is?
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yavuzovic (667 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Mouse!
I stay in a dormitory and someone saw a mouse. Mice proliferates fastly. What should I do against the mouse( or mice)?
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Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
A revealing thought experiment
This is one that the original author suggests no one has had a satisfactory answer to in ten years he's been posing it.
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Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
You are a delivery man. You deliver to a fertility clinic. While you are there a fire breaks out and starts tearing through the building. As you head for the exit, you pass a door and hear a child crying out for help. You open the door and inside you see a five year old on one side, the fire already consuming the middle of the room and you recognize a freezer with hundreds of frozen embryos. You have time to get only to one side of the room. Do you:
a) save the five year old and escape.
b) open the freezer and take the embryos and freezer packs and escape
c) save neither
d)try to do a & b and die in the fire.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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This seems like a good idea...
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Get a different job.
Durga (3609 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Anti-choicers don't care about the hundreds of frozen embryos because there isn't a woman to oppress yet
Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Come on, Tom, where's your sense of fun.
DO, one person suggested that the embryos be labelled 1000 white male embryos to make sure the appropriate parties actually care /snark
Randomizer (722 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
It's just a variation of the train switch problem of do you send it to collide with one person or a lot of them.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
23 Oct 17 UTC
Save the kid.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Save the cheerleader.
I don't get it. Do places actually keep frozen fertilized eggs? That's highly unethical, in my point of view. But then again, I'm not exactly sure how en vitro fertilization works anyways.
grumbledook (569 D(S))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Why is the five year old unattended? Why is a five year old in a fertility clinic in the first place? I think the five year old set the fire. If I were playing d&d I would cast true seeing. I'm more of a Call of Cthulhu player myself, so the embryos are probably tainted and I'd probably have to shoot the kid before it explodes into a mass of tentacles. SAN check!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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How do you know the heat from the fire hasn't already melted the embryos?
Deeply_Dippy (458 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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The first rules of fire safety are to raise the alarm and get out.

Only tackle the fire if it is safe to do so.

Having got that important message out of the way, there are two reasons why "the original author suggests no one has had a satisfactory answer to [it] in ten years...".

Firstly, it's because it's b*ll*cks. The scenario is utterly unrealistic. If a small child was in a room already engulfed in flame they wouldn't have breath to be crying. Likewise, the frozen embryos will cease to be viable unless they continue to be kept an equivalent facility. So, unless there's another fertility clinic next door, they'll be toast anyway. What's happened to the fire sprinkler systems: This isn't 'The Towering Inferno' And why is the poor delivery driver in the heart of this complex? They deliver their parcel and the front desk and go to the next drop-off. If they're in the building, then there's been a gross failure of security somewhere.

Secondly, the actual answer to 'what would you do?' varies from individual to individual, according to their personal safety and risk preferences. So there isn't any one 'correct' answer. If the author has asked this question for so long without receiving a 'satisfactory response' then either everyone has just given abusive responses (unlikely) or else the author hasn't been listening to the responses that they've received. Each one will be valid (or 'satisfactory') from the respondent's perspective and any attempt to externally validate them is to completely miss the point of the exercise.

If the author wants to get 'satisfactory answers' then they need to frame a realistic scenario and then accept what they receive at face value. Then they'll be inundated.
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Frozen embryos of what?
Octavious (2701 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Is the child insured? Is it fat? Is it kind of snotty looking? How heavy is the freezer, and does it have wheels?

Obviously you save the child. Not sure what the point of this thought experiment is. It looks like you're trying to make a cheap point on abortion based upon a failed understanding of the arguments of the other side.
Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Fantastic dive there Dippy

Who do you choose, the kid or the 1000 embryos?

(By the way, the asker ha never gotten an answer from anti-choice types who invariably equivocate and try to weasel out of the question. Everyone else says "save the kid, duh. )
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Are the embryos boys or girls?
Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
It isn't a failed understanding. They're entirely clear on making embryos entirely equivalent with a child. The confirmed anti choices ought to let the five year old burn without question.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
23 Oct 17 UTC
So the embryos are not human then? Serious question.
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Not really, because all the fetuses are going to have a very hard time becoming functioning humans now that they've been locked in the freezer, so saving them won't do all that much good.
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
(to Ogion, not Steven)
Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Flum provides another dodge. Life begins at conception. Therefore they're exactly euquivalent of a kid, all thousand of them. (It's a fertility clinic and yes embryos must be frozen until Implantation.) Whether they'll be implanted is irrelevant isn't it? They're alive

Yes, they're human embryos. Another dodge. Still no one says "let the kid burn". Shows what people actually believe
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
23 Oct 17 UTC
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I was right! This was a great idea.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
23 Oct 17 UTC
Who's dodging? I answered, didn't I?
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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rofl
Octavious (2701 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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I dare say some might see embryos as equivalent to a five year old, although I've not come across that myself. What I do hear loud and clear is that they believe the embryos are the beginning of human life and destroying them is fundamentally wrong. I don't understand why so many of those in favour of the right to have abortions can't acknowledge this, and hide behind ridiculous arguments of misogyny.
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
I agree. I'm socially liberal on almost all things except for abortion, and I can't fathom why pro-choice people can never understand the concerns of the other side.
Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Instead they say it's sexist (even though more females get aborted) or make weird straw men like Ogion did saying that you must believe embryos are exactly equal to all other life if you believe they are human.
TooCoolSunday (634 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Why is this so hard to answer? Save the child and get out.
a) the child will feel pain; the embryos won't.
b) you will be a hero with photos of you holding saved child in all media; you will look a real nub trying to hold load of defrosted embryos in your hand.
Ogion (3882 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Steven, yes. I missed that.

Because, Octavious, the arguments presented are so specious that misogyny is a pretty clear driver when the arguments advanced are so specious.

Flum, I think we understand the "concerns" but simply find that they don't hold water.

I think everyone pretty much recognizes that embryos aren't persons, yet the anti-choice brigade are trying to insist otherwise (but will never come out an say "let the child burn" here, which tells you what they actually believe). The "life begins at conception" is clearly either wrong or beside the point. (Carrots are alive. Does that make eating carrots wrong? Ok, so the "life" part isn't that relevant, so "human life?" Well cancer cells are human, and we kill them eagerly. Hell, brain dead people are human and no one but the most whacko see any point of keeping brain dead cadavers on life support.) The problem is that so may forced birther arguments are philosophically inconsistent. Given that, one assumes that some other motivation is what's driving this.

Fluminator (1500 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Not sure if it's worth debating with you but I'll give one more response.

Obviously you save the child and it doesn't prove any point that you think you're oh so clever in making. Saving the embryos will do very little in that situation, and the little it accomplishes isn't worth a 5 year old.
Plant and animal life are obviously less important than human life.
A cell of a human is obviously less important the the entire entity.

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Smokey Gem (154 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Real life thought experiment.
WARNING MAY CONTAIN TOPICS THAT MAY BE SENSITIVE TO SOME PEOPLE>

Child Abuse commisson finishes in Australia.
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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Axis & Allies general discussion thread
See title. I started playing it about a month ago. It's quite fun and a very different challenge from Diplomacy. I'm still getting my head wrapped around the editions, but I believe my group plays the "Classic" version (Spring 1942 start and there are no artillery, destroyers, etc.)

A friend and I are also working on a "present-day" version.
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
29 Sep 17 UTC
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webDip phpBB3 forum
Could someone do me a favor and see if /contrib/phpBB3/ is working for them? (i.e. are you logged in and able to post messages?)
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
30 Oct 17 UTC
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When players die
if you think about it any of us could die tomorrow and the site would never know. The games would go on and nothing would change. In a month people may say “I ausverkauft seen so and so around.” But then nothing.
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
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When players dye
if you think about it any of us could dye (our hair) tomorrow and the site would never know. The games would go on and nothing would change. In a month people may say “I ausverkauft if so and so has naturally colored hair.” But then nothing.
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brainbomb (290 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Turkey in a Gravy boat
So given Turkey looks juicy but its dry, I think a solution could be to just dip the turkey in a gravy boat. in a GB, I think dryness is minimized. I want it to be moist.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
28 Oct 17 UTC
how many Veterans
i dont care which country Just where, when, rank how long
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Ismail (100 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
A geopolitical forum game set in 2009
There's a forum game that will start sometime this month called "Balance of Power 2009." You can find it here: http://eregime.org/index.php?act=idx

Some users on eRegime also play on webDiplomacy, which is why I mention this.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Oct 17 UTC
Scythe
I finally got around to playing Scythe. It's without a doubt the best modern board game I've ever played. I highly recommend people check it out.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/169786/scythe
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Ogion (3882 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Another thought experiment
Since the last one pretty much exposed a mound of hypocrisy it's time for another one
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SkiingCougar (1581 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Turkey in a Gunboat
So given Turkey looked like it was the least fun to play especially in a GB, I decided to look trough past games where turkey won. What I noticed was many of those wins happened when either Russia or Austria CD'd the first turn. If Russia cd'd they'd move to Armenia vv
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