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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Nov 16 UTC
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ACA Premium Reimbursement
Today I was refunded a decent amount of last year's insurance premium through my company because our insurer didn't spend enough of their income from premiums on claims. What is going on here that some people are seeing their premiums double while some insurers literally don't have enough claims. Is it just happenstance that this provider only has healthy people? A civil, informed discussion would be appreciated, if at all possible.
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qwerbnot (0 DX)
14 Nov 16 UTC
Let's change the subject
Since there's so much rage about the American political situation, I thought I'd change it up a bit. Who do you think the next Australian PM will be?
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pRick Grimes (0 DX)
15 Nov 16 UTC
Last time on AMC's the wanking dead
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=185532
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Open Letter to Fellow Americans
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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The sun has risen and fallen, as will it for a long time. The presidential elections are pretty much over.

Despite what many of you believe, Trump has won the presidency fair and square. Whether or not you agree with the electoral college, it was the official process for electing a president, and trump (pretty overwhelmingly) beat Hillary where it mattered. You have to get over that.

Also despite what many of you believe, this is not the end of the world. We've come out of controversies like this in the past, the 2000 election being one of several instances. Despite his rhetoric, you have to respect the fact that many people trust this man to be our president, so we have to give him a chance.

We are all americans, and for that reason, we shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that our candidate lost the election because whoever the president will be, they will *have* to have the people's best interest in mind, and we can't say for sure whether he'll do that until we give him a chance.

Someone here quoted Bernie Sanders earlier when he said this:
"To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him.To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him."

Let's have this mindset going into January. Because Trump *will* be president and will be representing *all* of us, we have to help and ensure his success as a president, not stand idly, hoping that he makes a mistake so that we can ridicule him.

Addressing the Trump supporters, congratulations. Trump ran a hard fought campaign and won. Now you too, need to move on. Many of you see yourselves as fundamentally different from Clinton supporters, and you're wrong. We're all americans and we want what's best for everyone here. So telling people that voted Clinton to leave the US is just as problematic as Clinton supporters saying they will. It's obviously not serious but it does nothing to unite the people under the new president-elect. You, too, have to realize that Trump is no longer *your* candidate and is now *our* future president. Ostracizing those that didn't vote for him is counterproductive.

Despite having voted for Hillary, I accept Trump as the future president, and I'm rooting for him to do well, because his success is our success. Just my thoughts.

A concerned, but proud American,
Yoyo
Red-Lion (382 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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In before the obligatory Ogion rage post.
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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When Bill Clinton was inaugurated and went into the Oval Office, he was greeted with this letter from the former president George H.W. Bush:

Dear Bill,

When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.

I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described.

There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I’m not a very good one to give advice; but just don’t let the critics discourage you or push you off course.

You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well.

Your success now is our country’s success. I am rooting hard for you.

Good luck – George
Red-Lion (382 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
I want to make an extremely inappropriate intern joke here but will resist. The healing must begin.
Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
@ yoyo

Well said. While I have no love for Trump, he has four years to earn my vote. Likewise the democrats have the same four years to try to earn it for their next candidate. The election is over and it is time to come together. Engaging in rants won't solve anything. The Republicans have a similar situation (albeit with significantly lower hopes) than that which the Democrats squandered in 2008. If they are wise, they will work swiftly on policies that will help everyone.

Not holding out much hope for it, but I will still wait and see..
Red-Lion (382 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Exactly what Crazy said. If the Republicans fuck things up in the next 2-4 years, back in the Democrats go.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Well said. Somebody give this man a comedy cube for the +1s he's racking up!!!
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
11 Nov 16 UTC
and if you are in any doubt about what red said, just look at the control of the house of representatives or the senate from 1986 to now.
Lethologica (203 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
:thumbsup:
ghug (5068 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Good post Yoyo.

I'd like to add one thing, however.

A lot of the reaction from the left has been in regards to one thing in particular. I was fairly young both times Bush Jr. was elected, but I experienced the disappointment that his victories brought to many, and this isn't the same disappointment. The issue here is the growing feelings--and growing acceptance of those feelings--of hate in this country.

There were certainly other reasons to vote for Trump, and while it's hard for me to agree with them, I can at least understand that the working class in America's declining manufacturing centers is suffering and needs change. What's also clear is that there is a significant portion of Trump's support that is rooted in xenophobia, in misogyny, in racism, and that is not understandable or acceptable.

My hope is that Trump's reasons for espousing those views were more about winning voters than they were about what he actually plans to do, but there's a worry that they aren't. As Yoyo says, the only thing we can really do with respect to him is to wait and see what he does, and resist strongly if and when he does things that aren't acceptable. We can do more than simply accept in the mean time though. We need to stop the rhetoric coming from both sides that the other is insane. The left has to accept that not everybody on the right voted out of racism or misogyny, and those who didn't on the right have to accept that they do have those people on their side, and work to discourage that behavior.

I can accept that Trump is president, but I can't accept that a lot of what he stands for is beyond the realm of debatable politics, and it's important that we continue voicing that that's not OK until people listen and change.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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From a British perspective, here's the following from a Labour member:

In 2015; Labour lost the general election here to the Conservative Party. It was a surprise result (particularly the Conservative Majority they got). And it was a deeply unpleasant experience. The Conservative Party came in promising measures I was strongly opposed to - more austerity. Big welfare cuts. More targetting of the weakest in society. And a referendum on EU membership. At the time, I was begrudgingly pro-Remain - as the final nail in the coffin of my faith in the EU - the third Greek bailout - had yet to be hammered in. I did not welcome the economic uncertainty it brought. I did not welcome the crushing the Labour party suffering.

But the Labour party looked inwards. We respected the result and decided we needed to find a new way to fight the Conservative party. That 2015 defeat brought us Jeremy Corbyn. Labour shifted radically to the Left under our new leadership. It's been extremely fractious. It's been very difficult. There have been setbacks. But the Labour party now offers a clear alternative to the Conservative party for the first time in decades. We have policies I am enthused by rather than supporting just because they're Labour. Positions I can back with motivation and gusto; not just because I hate the Tory proposals.

We turned our dark defeat into the start of a bright new future. I do not know whether we will win the next election; but I am confident we will win the one after should we fail - and I think we have a very good chance next time around, too. We have said 'No' to the Status Quo. We have created a movement that's seen Labour become the biggest political party by membership in Europe by a massive margin; despite being in opposition. We have numbers of highly motivated and enthused members not seen since the 1950s. And we've brought a new generation into politics.

We have path for the future. I am immensely more optimistic and proud of my party now than I was in the buildup to 2015. And this is what the Democratic party now needs to do in America. It needs to take its darkest moment and look inward. It needs to dispose of the old leadership and look for new and fresh ideas. It needs to offer hope again. The establishment and the status quo are deeply unpopular. It should not be the Right that is able to step into that breach - the Left needs to go back to its roots. And this is their opportunity to do so.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
Open letters...smh

Did anyone ever teach y'all its rude to read another persons mail.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
Stupid joke, but good post.
Randomizer (722 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Just like under the last Bush presidency, the Republicans control Congress and they will only have themselves to blame as the country goes downhill.

Interest rates are going to finally rise and Trump and the Republicans don't control the independent Federal Reserve Bank. Inflation is going to rise because energy prices aren't going to go much lower which was the main reason it's been officially so low.

The deficit and debt will increase substantially since interest rates will make it more expensive for government debt. Trump's tax cuts will decrease revenues because the rich aren't interested in paying more in taxes even at lower rates. Republicans won't be able to cut the budget anywhere else because we can't pull out of where we are fighting and they don't want to anger voters for the next election in two years. So just like under Bush the yearly deficit will keep increasing.
ND (879 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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This was a good letter and I do hope that we can come together and have some unity.

Thank you and I gave you a +1.
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
I'm glad that we are in agreement. Everyone might not agree with me, but it's nice that most of us at least have some common ground, and that's really all we need to create a sense of understanding.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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"Exactly what Crazy said. If the Republicans fuck things up in the next 2-4 years, back in the Democrats go." - I just love the insanity of this.

The democrats have fucked us, lets select a republican, but if he fucks us we'll pick a democrat after. Em... have you heard of electoral reform? Third parties? Not living under a two party system, where one party just feeds the other with angry rhetoric., and both live in a happy symbiosis with each other?

Cause you know that is what you are describing, and I know because Ireland (despite it's multi-party system) has had the same FF/FG two party system for most of the history of this country.

If Trump was voted on anti-establishment principles, and Sanders was popular for the same reasons, then this is a clear indication that you're not that upset with the establishment...
LeonWalras (865 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Bump for the comedy cube +1s. I have nothing to add that ghug hasn't already added.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
"The democrats have fucked us, lets select a republican, but if he fucks us we'll pick a democrat after. Em... have you heard of electoral reform? Third parties? Not living under a two party system, where one party just feeds the other with angry rhetoric., and both live in a happy symbiosis with each other?"

Progress is, at least, being made here too - Ranked-Choice Voting passed in Maine Tuesday night, for example.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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we have one party (democrat) rule in california; the government is pretty messed up here
orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 Nov 16 UTC
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https://youtu.be/G3wLQz-LgrM
trip (696 D(B))
12 Nov 16 UTC
Dems, stop tagging them with some catch-words that allows you not acknowledge their point of view...or to put it more bluntly, be exactly the type of bigot the you claim to despise. Your never going to get to equality through retribution, and it's that aspect that shuts me off to your idea. I'm all for equality, but I will can't agree with I'm never going to apologize because by random chance of birth my skin-tone is a similar shade to the people who founded this country.
trip (696 D(B))
12 Nov 16 UTC
I shouldn't try posting from my phone.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
12 Nov 16 UTC
I saw in the NY Times that four more states are now controlled by a Republican Governor and Republicans control both houses of the legislature.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
12 Nov 16 UTC
That makes twenty-four the number where Republicans have that 'trifecta'. Dems have only six.
WolfsBane626 (235 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Go trump and republicans! The party of death has fallen to their knees by the intervention of Heaven!
WolfsBane626 (235 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Also it was Obama that raised our debt by 10 trillion dollars. It is bush's and Obama's fault.
WolfsBane626 (235 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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Plus Obama is promoting these riots when he could say stop and have mostly peace.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Nov 16 UTC
/\ There are riots in the streets of some cities, ridiculous universitites indulging children's idiotic overreactions by cancelling exams, etc.....and those two deplorable Democrat leaders are SILENT.

Image if the situation were reveresed, and Hillary had won and consefrvatives were rioting (which is idiotic on the face of it....you can't name a single riot EVER hosted by conservatives....but....back to the point) if Trump didn't call for calm amongst his supporters, the Media and Democrat leadership would be decrying Trump and Republicans for not telling people to stand down.

Hillary and Obama have been *silent* to their supporters - even though *lives could be on the line* if riots get out of hand.

You *must* ask yourself: WHY? And there is only one conclusion you can have as to why the LEADER OF THE NATION is silent: He WANTS the riots. Hillary WANTS there to be riots.

Which in and of itself is reason enough to celebrate that this horrible awful women was denied access to the White House -- she isn't a leader of the people, or she would be trying to lead her constituents to calm.

Deplorable...
WolfsBane626 (235 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
I know. That's what I was saying. The party of death =the Democratic Party.

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pRick Grimes (0 DX)
15 Nov 16 UTC
Join quick!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=185532
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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Every F$&@ing Game Ruined!!!!
Every f$@&ing game ruined by NMR/CD's ... and then the D Bags who get the advantage won't cancel the game! Pathetic guys! You know who you are, and you're freakin' pathetic point grubbing thieves! You can't play win a straight up fight, so you resort to playing when you've got an unfair advantage.

Can we PLEASE create an "auto-cancle" feature so this stops happening?
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pRick Grimes (0 DX)
15 Nov 16 UTC
Join Game Now!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=185532

Rip Glenn & Abraham
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DemonRHK (100 D(B))
17 Oct 16 UTC
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MAFIA XXIV: Webdiplomacy's Tom Clancy's The Division
See inside for details
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leon1122 (190 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
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What is...
your least favorite part of the Constitution?
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brainbomb (290 D)
14 Nov 16 UTC
Magic the gathering encourages children to practice Necromancy
Studies have shown that children who play Black decks tend to perform human sacrifice on animals. One child saw the art on the card goblin ski patrol and he began killing squirrels.
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yassem (2533 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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So I found this image...
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/zv582606a2.jpg
...and was wandering whether it was just the most retarded argument in favour of the most retarded para-democratic voting system in the world.
Thoughts?
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Octavious (2701 D)
14 Nov 16 UTC
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Supermoon Kills Science
So tonight there is going to be a "supermoon", which to those of you who don't know is what we in astrophysicist circles refer to as a "moon". It will not look any different to any other full moon you may have seen...
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Beaumont (569 D)
14 Nov 16 UTC
Non Live Game Players Needed
Looking for 2 players. Low bet high quality game.
gameID=185324
pw: backstab
please let me know when have joined.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Extra Terrestial Influence
So I think most of the world is in agreement that the universe is so big that life almost definitely exists on other planets. That question is kind of boring though. The real question is, have aliens had contact with earth in the present or past.
The results are in, and the evidence points to a resounding yes!

discuss
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
14 Nov 16 UTC
Tell us again how climate change is a myth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37949877
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MonsieurJavert (214 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
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Cheating
Why is there such an epidemic of cheating? I've had several games be paused and irreparably damaged by cheating investigations. Can anyone explain why people are so invested in winning that they won't abide by the rules?
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Pompeii (638 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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Trump's Victory was not because of White voters.
Despite what message the media may be sharing with you about how Trump only won because the white vote watch this video and see if it changes your mind or perception at all.

https://youtu.be/yhUXSX3ZnpE
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David Ridley (257 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
Rulebookpress
Could some body explain what exactly games played under rule book press means in practice, please.
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Hazael (7 DX)
13 Nov 16 UTC
What is RR?
Just wondering what RR is? And how does one achieve it? I want to join the live game but it won't let me because I need 30% RR? Also, it won't let me join other games in the new games section because I don't have a certain percentage?
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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Maniac 2020
Recent appointments to high office have created controversy among progressive, intelligent people. I'm talking about two things, of course. First of all, the election of Donald Trumpf as Leader Of The Free World (TM). Secondly, and no less controversially, the selection of a new Moderator who was not Maniac.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
13 Nov 16 UTC
The Jack Vasel Memorial Fund Auction - 2016
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/215192/jack-vasel-memorial-fund-auction-2016

Last two days!
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JamesYanik (548 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
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At Least Trump got SNL to Shut Up
If anything good can be taken out of this one...
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brainbomb (290 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Hillary Clinton Victory Party
POTUS baby. CHECK TO THA MATE YO
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
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LeonWalras' Thread
Take it away, Walras!
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Trustworthy Ally ;) (137 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Question
If I make a thread about politics will a lot of people discuss it ?
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TrPrado (461 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
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A Divide
I've seen horrible reactions these past 24 hours. Some celebrate that they have a champion, thinking he will bring this country to its greatest times. Others panic, fearing the same man will erode their rights and encourage persecution which will endanger their lives. Those whose views don't fall into that binary shirk away, fearing their voice is no longer welcome. This thread is about the lofty goal of uniting a further dividing nation.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement
See Inside
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wildwolf (1214 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
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Remembrance Day November 11 - LEST WE FORGET
Remember to take 2 minutes of silence at 11 am in honour of those who have fought the wars that we like to play from the safety of our computers

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/remember/flandersfields_e.shtml
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Octavious (2701 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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American Pie
https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs

Says it all :)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
Refugees and Asylum seekers
So i had a thought, under international law, those seeking asylum are entitled to protection if they have reason to fear for their life. Thus pretty much anyone fleeing the Syrian war should probably automatically be granted asylum.

What about LGBT folk from the US, fearing political repression and violence in the streets. Should we (europeans) open our borders?
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