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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
28 May 14 UTC
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2014 Gunboat Tournament Round 2
Inside for details
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
28 Aug 14 UTC
Don't panic Mr Cameron .... just keep calm and carry on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28967904
Cameron is so arrogant he won't change but today it was announced that net migration to the UK was 243,000 last year, Cameron has promised 50,000. He and his Old Etonian cronies seem to be the only people that don't realize there is a problem ..... he talks tough but acts like a pussy !!
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s3xnigger (0 DX)
29 Aug 14 UTC
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bo_sox can get cancer
bo_sox and his entire family deserves cancer
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eureka84 (125 D)
29 Aug 14 UTC
cancel a game
anyway to cancel a game before it starts? we had 7 players which started the timer but now one was banded so we are down to six.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
27 Aug 14 UTC
Should a nine-year-old child be handling a sub-machine gun?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28948946
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JamesYanik (548 D)
28 Aug 14 UTC
1 MORE FOR WORLD GAME!!!
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tendmote (100 D(B))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Behaviorism
According to Wikipedia, “The behaviorist school of thought maintains that behaviors as such can be described scientifically without recourse either to internal physiological events or to hypothetical constructs such as thoughts and beliefs.”

Do you think this is appropriate? If so, does that make you optimistic or pessimistic about the prospects for human happiness?
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jimbursch (100 D)
27 Aug 14 UTC
Substitution and sitters
I need a definition for substitution and sitters for the glossary:
http://jimbursch.com/webDiplomacy/glossary.php
I also need to know the procedure for substitution and sitting.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Aug 14 UTC
Manual with Electronic E-Brake
I'm looking at cars and am considering the Outback. I'd like a manual, but I don't know about that electronic ebrake. Anyone have thoughts/experience with this?
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Randomizer (722 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
Burger King tax inversion in Canada
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2014/08/25/the-whopper-takes-on-canada-burger-king-tim-hortons-soar-on-merger-talks/
Burger King to save tax money is in talks to go to Canada
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Maybe if enough companies leave, the government will finally clean up our tax code.
Randomizer (722 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
Burger King has become the latest company to lower its taxes by moving to a foreign country even though some in the US think Canada is part of the US. Whether they can get the deal done before the US Congress enacts new laws to prevent corporations fleeing to friendlier tax climates remains to be seen.

This is part of a flight to cheapness by Big Pharma, Walgreens, and others to escape our high taxes. Instead of keeping earnings abroad, they can cash in at a lower tax rate and screw the US out of their taxes.

So will the US change the tax laws to make our rates lower or do what they did to individuals fleeing our taxes and charge them a higher tax rate on the money they have that they our trying to transfer abroad?
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
FLAT TAX
Putin33 (111 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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And I'm sure that means they'll be paying their US workers healthcare like they have in Canada.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Lawl no. ^
Putin33 (111 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
If Canada wants our corporate crooks and tax cheats, let them have them. The fewer Satanic Mills we have in the US, the better.
Invictus (240 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
You're a parody of yourself, Putin33.

The easiest thing the government could do to encourage economic growth is slash the corporate tax rate. The high corporate tax we have now is ludicrous because it discourages investment, which creates jobs, and means higher prices for consumers, since corporations will raise their prices in order to offset the money lost to taxes and maintain their profit margin.

Of course, people who want high corporate taxes don't want them because they think it's good for the economy somehow. No, they want them high because CORPORATIONS ARE BAD, MAN!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Funny because that was to ssorenn, not you...
Putin33 (111 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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Legions of companies pay no taxes at all. The notion that corporations are overtaxed is a giant fraud perpetuated by the defenders of corporate greed like Invictus, who never met a corporate crook he didn't like.
Putin33 (111 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
Oh noes, Burger King's inedible microwaved garbage food's prices will be increased under the dubious pretense of taxes while the corporate fat cats give themselves bonuses. Whatever will we do?
krellin (80 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
That's FLAME BROILED microwaved garbage, thank you very much...
krellin (80 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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funny, when the government wants less smoking, they raise the taxes on it, recognizing that more cost = less use.

And yet they can't figure out how to apply the same truth to corporate tax structure. Want fewer American companies --> make it more expensive to be an american company. The outcome is predictable, and all those "burn the 1%'ers" / "Kill the evil prodfit-making corporations!" liberals are now reaping what they sewed.

i.e. Quit your bitching.
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
uh, Bo what does that mean?
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
i like the 1%ers, makes you believe the american dream is still alive
krellin (80 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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what is really interseting is that if you look at who *IS* the 1% or 2%, other than a few people it changes very much over time -- i.e. the notion that there is a small, tight group of super-wealthy / super-earners who run the show year after year is simply false.

But yes - I like having people wealthier than I so I have something to shoot for. Damn straight!
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
+1 Big K
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Aug 14 UTC
I mean a flat tax is an *awful* idea.
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
you be a fool
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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but then again you have never payed taxes ,so there you have it
krellin (80 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
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The undereducated have this uninformed philosophy that taxes are magic money that coroproations produce from thin air, instead of recognizing that coroporations NEVER pay taxes....taxes are built into the PRICE of every product CONSUMER'S PURCHASE.

Thus, the argument can be made that excessive corporate taxes are actually more harmful to the poor of the country who - under our current system of tax law, are supposd to pay a lower % tax burden (income) - and yet get stuck with equally high tax burden on purchased product which contains the cost of taxes to the corporation.

Thus - in affect - corproate taxes ARE a "flat tax" on the consumer level.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Yeah, that must be it.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Agree @ krellin
ag7433 (927 D(S))
25 Aug 14 UTC
Employees medical costs go up due to Obama care and the company reduces their cost, increases cost to employee. Raises prices to customer to absorb the difference. Same thing with taxes. It is all pass through.

But the biggest joke is the NFL never had paid tax. Somehow is set up as a non profit corporation.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
25 Aug 14 UTC
I'm so happy krellin is back.
kasimax (243 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
ssorenn, how come you want a flat tax? doesn't america have kind of a reverse progressive tax where the very rich pay even less taxes than the usual american?
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
if every one pays with a flat tax, and you take the loophole tax deductions away, this country will run a surplus in less than 10 years....EVERYONE pays...steve forbes says that rate should be between 17-20% of income...the only thing you need to work out, is charitable contrabutions....without finding a way to alloow for some sort of deduction for these, charities will suffer
krellin (80 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
"skin in the game"....Obama's words. A Flat Tax means that *all* Americans have equal skin in the game. It minimizes the the "importance" of the large tax payers. It gives every voting citizen in the country an equal reason to be concerned about where and why and how our Government is spending our tax dollars. It is an equalizer.

Under the current system of unequal taxation, the "lower tier" tax "payers" (many of whom don't even pay, but receive "taxes" they never paid in!) their motivations for success, growth, county, etc are perverted by the desire to receive what was never earned.
Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
25 Aug 14 UTC
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There are some issues with this article. I don't typically deal much with public companies, but I do know some things about tax in Canada.

The article does not mention that Quebec has the highest tax rates of any Canadian province - they are at 11.9% flat in addition the the federal tax.

The article ignores the idea of permanent establishment. If you have a permanent establishment in any place other than your "place of residence" then you still pay your tax in that jurisdiction. They would still be required to file US tax returns on their US activities, on the basis that they still have US based offices serving their franchises there.

Of course, if they move all of their operations to Canada and are able to earn the same level of franchise fee income, then this could benefit them - but I don't see that as being likely.

This is why the corporate tax rate is lower in Canada - there is a tax abatement of 10% that is designed to leave room for the other jurisdictions (provinces and other countries) the opportunity to tax.

So, the article is kind of misleading.
phil_a_s (0 DX)
25 Aug 14 UTC
Flat tax is bullshit, for painfully obvious reasons. Perfectly, taxes would be levied from amounts over cost of living and stuff. Otherwise, you'd have people below the poverty line paying tax.

Corporations should pay taxes legally, but they often don't. I agree that corporations raise prices to comply with tax requirements (even though a lot don't pay taxes), and that the poor are unfairly targeted by high prices on stuff.

That doesn't mean the only solution is to reduce corporate taxes, or to remove them. It may well be the best solution, though. Curiously, I can find no obvious flaw in krellin's reasoning. A no-loophole scaling income tax, with a tax on investments could lead to an interesting situation.

My perfect tax is indeed flat, but with a flat numeric tax reduction for everyone. This means you can have a reasonably high tax, while poor people don't lose most of their money, and the horribly rich pay reasonable rates, but that's never gonna happen.
"Corporations should pay taxes legally, but they often don't."

Do you have some evidence of this? I would argue it is simply not true.

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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
19 Aug 14 UTC
Postal Diplomacy
I'm looking for 6 hyper-reliable US players interested in a 10 day postal game of Diplomacy. The game will be adjudicated on this site, but all press will be through first-class USPS. Anyone interested?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
24 Aug 14 UTC
Discuss the statement: "I'm from where I am."
What do you interpret that to mean?
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Zach0805 (100 D)
26 Aug 14 UTC
Fall of Labor Day
Join Fall of Labor Day Bet:5 2 Days
gameID=146560
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
23 Aug 14 UTC
Fairly Cheap Website Hosting and Webdesign
€7,50/month, €90/year to host a site with up to 5 GB of space and monthly bandwidth, my help when needed, many 1-click installations, webmail accounts for your domain, excellent reliability and English support. Easy. Quite all-inclusive except domain registration. That’s £5,99/month or $9.93/month. International transactions cost a bit too. Prices change. You can make me a personal offer. Price for webdesign depends on workload but think 3 digits. More inside.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
26 Aug 14 UTC
AMERICAN DIPLOMACY GAME
gameID=146560
3 MORE DAYS
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tendmote (100 D(B))
26 Aug 14 UTC
Standard and Poor's 500 index breaks through 2000 for the first time
The Standard and Poor's 500 index broke through 2000 for the first time today. What do you think of that?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/sandp-500-touches-2000-for-first-time/2014/08/25/75c5a5de-2c9c-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html
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civwarbuff (305 D)
24 Aug 14 UTC
Should New Game settings include ejection for multiple NMRs?
Do you think that the NEW GAME settings should allow for automatic ejection from games for # of NMRs and/or # of consecutive NMRs?
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Wotan (1587 D)
26 Aug 14 UTC
Two players wanted for (cheap) winner-takes-all game!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=146359

password: AelleBaelleMigFortaelle
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yebellz (729 D(G))
26 Aug 14 UTC
Learn Go Week: Sept 13-20
Want to learn to play the game of go? Check out the Learn Go Week at online-go.com

http://forums.online-go.com/t/learn-go-week-september-13-september-20/1589
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
26 Aug 14 UTC
You are posting too frequently, please slow down.
I really am not though, please fix.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
MODERN 1 MORE
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Balrog (219 D)
25 Aug 14 UTC
What would happen if...
What would happen if I convoy an army from Belgium to Holland using my fleet in the north sea as well as order my other fleet at Holland to move to Belgium, simultaneously?
Is this possible?

PS: I know it would be same as ordering F:Hol->North Sea, F:North Sea-> Bel, A:Bel->Hol; but just curious. ;)
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Sargent Kyle (0 DX)
24 Aug 14 UTC
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ADVERTISE YOUR GAMES HERE
Use this thread to Advertise ALL your games here, live or not!
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
24 Aug 14 UTC
Any English Professors out there?
I am writing my intro paper for my college composition course (mandatory at my school even with equivalent AP course scores) I am trying something different and wanted to know if the risk is worth it on my initial paper?
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The_Real_LT (317 D)
23 Aug 14 UTC
Gunboat support moves
I'm in a no messaging anonymous player game where I was dislodged because one player supported another into my territory. How common is it that without messaging a player would know the exact move to make to assist another? Should I report this to the mods? It just seems suspicious as there theoretically shouldn't be a way for the two players to communicate....
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Doshy II (128 D)
22 Aug 14 UTC
Interested in Aliens? Read This:
If you know anything about alternate types of life that may exist on other planets - or even on Earth - (e.g: silicon-based as opposed to carbon-based) please write here.
Thank you!
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micahbales (1397 D)
24 Aug 14 UTC
VDiplomacy
Sorry if this has already been covered in another thread; I haven't seen it:

What's the relationship between VDiplomacy and this site?
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semck83 (229 D(B))
23 Aug 14 UTC
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Smoked salmon
This is an advertisement, but it is one to make y'all's lives better (and it will not profit me in the least).
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Aug 14 UTC
"Planet Earth is Blue"...Richard Attenborough Passes Away at 90
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/actor-director-richard-attenborough-dies-at-90/
One more legend gone this summer...so many great nature documentaries, and like Robin Williams, he had a small part in Kenneth Branagh's "Hamlet," announcing that "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead." RIP...Planet Earth's a little less awesome today.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
24 Aug 14 UTC
Forum Thread Stars
Until recently, when you had posted in a thread, a star would appear next to the thread title on your screen, so that when you were scanning the forum, you'd quickly be able to see which threads you were involved in.

Now those little stars are gone. How come?
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