You know Krellin not every women would be upset by that. Some would laugh and fart right back at you.

Then again I know guys that would freak out and kick you to the couch too.

Ahhh....but it wouldn't actually happen...because my wife is a woman...and unlike Thucy the fool, I generally treat women far different than I treat men...and they appreciate it.

I wonder what sort of a gruff, hairy gorilla of a woman Thucywad's mother was that he equates women to men. <shudders....>

Celtic....I certainly agree, there are women and men on both sides of this equation...but *in general*, and of course I was being intentionally repulsive to make a point, and would do that to neither sex.

BUT...were would you most likely expect to witness this behavior
A FRATERNITY house...or a SORORITY?

Please, Celtic...please don't tell me you buy in to this whole idiocy that men and women are one and the same behaviorally like Thucy insists...

Sure you'd be more likely to see that in a Fraternity but that doesn't mean there's no women who would be ok with it. You and Thucy are on to opposite ends of the spectrum. I'm more in the middle. I see it less as a gender thing and more of a personality thing, but I can see how the argument can be made for somethings being a gender thing.

"women ... *in general*"

Fuck off you sexist dirtbag. You're not worthy of even the attention of any single one of the members of this forum, or of your wife for that matter.

Thucy....ahhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha! I'm not worthy of attention...and yet here you are, giving me attention.

<kiss>

You silly said racist misogynist.

Let me know when you learn to treat people as individuals, instead of classifying, labeling and categorizing them for philosophical experimentation, you pathetic douchebag.

And...funny, I *do* have a wife that gives me attention. And you have....what? What's that? Your right hand? And it's getting a cramp?

Yeah....I thought so.

Let's make this absolutely clear. It's clear I consider you a bigot. What I wonder is whether the people who have read our posts would consider you or me the villain.

It's certainly obvious the content of your character, from the way you treat people and talk about them.

Even on your own sick merits you should be ashamed of yourself.

Thucy -- what's that you said? You are a bigot? You think minorities can't make it without your white man help? What's that you say? You are a mysoginist and think women can't make it withour your help? And even though you resent being compared to feminine qualities, you think women are exactly like men in all respect?

What's that you say? You categorize and classify and dehumanize every person you meet?

Thucy thucy thucy....my little Libtard robot....maybe someday you'll learn to treat people as individuals, and your right hand will uncramp. Until then, enjoy your pathetic, lonely life...

If a bloke did that to me I would slog them. Krellin's premise of 'blokey' behaviour just goes to show what sort of person he is in real life with his 'guy' friends.

Bravo.

Krellin, you're talking about "women in general" and then claiming that you treat people as individuals?

Society as a whole most certainly treats men and women differently, and that along with different hormonal balances for the genders cause people to behave differently, but every person is different and should be treated equally. Go ahead and be nicer to your wife because you like her more than your guy friends, but don't treat people in different ways solely based on gender.

Krellin, let me use a poker analogy to explain why you are right, but also wrong.

When I sit at a poker table the people are more important than the cards and I have to play them rather than the cards in order to win. Poker is also a game of limited imprecise information. Now suppose an unknown woman bets into me on the flop and I need to access if she has a made hand, is drawing to a hand or is bluffing. I look at their appearance, how they stake their chips, their age AND their gender. Women tend to be less risk taker in my experience and is supported by evidence such as more men file for bankruptcy. Older people also tend to be more conservative. If the decission is borderline I may be swayed be the fact that the better is a woman.

However, I went to a poker tournament this weekend and the seat draw was posted on line prior to the day. I ran my table through a database to see how much money each player had earnt. Of the two woman on my table one didn't register at all, and after an hour of playing it was obvious why, and the other was very successful and again her play re-inforced that she was a more than competent player, she did get unlucky, but her play was solid.

What this illustrates to me is that people can make certain assumptions based on stereotypes and in the absence of better information, they may be acceptable. But if you have better information which allows you to adjust and adapt, then you should use that info and not get tied to the stereotypes. In poker that could cost you money. In life it could cost you much more.

"What I wonder is whether the people who have read our posts would consider you or me the villain."

Why is "both" not an option?

krellin, you are a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole. You treat your male friends terribly as well. Go away.

@kaner406

"If a bloke did that to me I would slog them."

I believe you! For all the lack of guns, there are a lot of fights in the UK. Thrown bottles, table legs picked out of "rubbish heaps", collapsible clubs, that shit is dangerous.

I have no problem with generalizations about women. For instance: in general women will think krellin is a huge dick but has a tiny one.

@tendmote

"table legs picked out of "rubbish heaps", collapsible clubs"

What films have you been watching? :p

How is Thucy a villain, Semck?

For making up 50% of the Krellin and Thucy Show, I assume.

The whole argument's a bit of a farce, to be honest. Behind krellin's colorful debating style hide a couple of fair and pretty moderate points. Thucy isn't 1000 miles away in his own views, although his holier than thou, refuse to give an inch attitude makes them look poles apart.

All rather entertaining, though.

"Behind krellin's colorful debating style hide a couple of fair and pretty moderate points."

I suppose if you're conservative enough you can be forgiven for anything. Hell, even shouting nothing but rancid abuse at people can be deemed a "debating style" with "fair and moderate points". The miracles of political tribalism.

"
All rather entertaining, though."

As is the hackish excuse-making for Krellin.

I'm just a really tolerant sort of chap, Putin. That's why I can read this forum in a happy and contented fashion even when it has excitable sorts calling decent people like Draug "racist scum" repeatedly, and other excitable fools making comments about taking other members up the backside..

Tolerance is a wonderful thing, Putin. You should give it a go one day :)

<eating popcorn>

Sorry if I'm unimpressed at your one-sided 'tolerance' for ugliness, Octavious. Especially for so-called 'decent people' who have not only made threats of physical violence against others - repeatedly -, but have gone out of their way to find personal information to publicize in order to ridicule people here. If your so-called tolerance for boors was matched by an inkling tolerance for those who had the temerity to criticize them, maybe I'd be impressed, but probably not.

The threats of physical violence were obviously not serious, and as such about as harmless as if I threatened to throw the moon at your house. The personal information thing I know nothing about, although I confess it's somewhat disturbing if true.

Putin, I will throw a moon at your house if you don't stop attacking krellin.

@Putin33 Do you have a hard time telling what is real? Which threats of physical violence are you talking about? I think your yearning to have strong authoritarian rule is rooted in fears that most people would not consider real.

Oh this is very real...

Then why am I not also scared?