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krellin (80 DX)
08 Dec 13 UTC
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MSU Spartans - Big Ten Champs!
Michigan State - Big Ten Champs!

Suck on THAT Ohio State Suckeyes! (Though - kudos of Braxton Miller - he deserves the Heisman)
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MeowdolfKittler (100 D)
07 Dec 13 UTC
Battlefield 4VS COD Ghosts
Which one is better and which one is worse
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
06 Dec 13 UTC
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Please help
I was wondering if you folks can help me do a good deed.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
05 Dec 13 UTC
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RIP Nelson Mandela
Yes, it's seemingly old news, we've all known it's coming, but there's no reason we shouldn't offer a little respect to, literally, one of the greatest and most respected figures in human history. Tough to swallow.
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Putin33 (111 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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RIP. A truly great man.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
05 Dec 13 UTC
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21 years in captivity, his body is old but his mind is still free, are we so blind that we cannot see........
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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RIP Nelson Mandela.

Visiting his cell in Robben Island prison a few years ago was a truly humbling experience. One of the great figures of modern history passed away today.

RIP.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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A hero died today.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
05 Dec 13 UTC
"Mandela was not a Tibetan mystic, or a supernatural being, or a saint, but a flawed individual as prone to irrational behavior or to anger and impatience as the rest of us. To acknowledge that, yes, indeed, some atoms of bitterness did remain lodged in his heart is not to diminish his person or his achievement. The fact that he did have to battle to conquer his own demons is further evidence of the supreme quality of leadership he displayed, of the sacrifices he made and the self-control he exercised in pursuit of the prize he pursued all his life, democracy and justice in a country where black and white people could live as equals, in peace."

- John Carlin; essay found at http://news.yahoo.com/mandela-was-just-a-man--and-that-made-what-he-did-extraordinary-214037514.html
Octavious (2701 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Great news. The efforts to force him to live beyond his time have been truly ghastly and no one deserved such a fate.

There are few who create such a positive legend that has been a great inspiration to many, and for that alone he deserves our respect.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
05 Dec 13 UTC
95 years old and a true hero in every sense of the word.
The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
05 Dec 13 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgcTvoWjZJU
DipperDon (6457 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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Mandela was an avowed communist and confessed terrorist, responsible for the bombing deaths of innocent people including women and children. There was nothing great or heroic about him.
President Eden (2750 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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"Mandela was an avowed communist and confessed terrorist, responsible for the bombing deaths of innocent people including women and children. There was nothing great or heroic about him."

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/oh-boy.gif


RIP Mandela
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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So it's not possible for a communist to be a hero, DipperDon?

I feared it would only be a matter of time before one of the forum's extreme right-wing libertarian nut-monkeys came out of the woodwork to shit on this previously respectful thread.

Fuck you, Don.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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And fuck you, whoever the fuck +1'ed his idiot comment.
mendax (321 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
it's worth noting that Mandela was placed on a terrorism watch list by Reagan, and was only removed in 2008, DipperDon's opinions were held by people with considerable power until very recently.
Uncomfortable thought....Mandela isn't the only person responsible for the bombing deaths of innocent people. Just sayin'
kalbim (100 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Just heard about this about an hour ago
Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
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I am grateful people like Jamie exist here.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
If you don't have any haters, you haven't done enough with your life. If Westboro Baptist Church pickets your funeral, you've done just fine.

Sorry Don, and others, Reagan was actually not the second coming of Jesus, white people are not the only people that can do good in the world, and Mandela was a hell of a guy that will be forever memorialized in museums, history textbooks, PhD papers, and every South African body and soul that lives until the end of civilization.
DipperDon (6457 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
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"So it's not possible for a communist to be a hero, DipperDon?

I feared it would only be a matter of time before one of the forum's extreme right-wing libertarian nut-monkeys came out of the woodwork to shit on this previously respectful thread.

Fuck you, Don."

That's the sum total of your refutation of my post? Third grade adhoms? Pathetic.
mendax (321 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
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That which is stated without evidence can be rejected without evidence.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
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Mandela is a terrorist but Reagan is a world-class hero.

Only in America is dish soap made with real lemons and lemonade made with artificial lemons. Only in America is Reagan considered one of the best leaders ever and Mandela one of the worst.

Some days I feel like everyone in this country signs their name to hell just by being here.
ILN (100 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
RIP

Great man.

And btw Jamie, what don said was utterly retarded, but "extreme right-wing libertarian nut-monkeys". He is most definitely not libertarian, its even insulting to group him together with libertarians. And jeez, so much hate towards the right.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/RxZZ60c.gif
DipperDon (6457 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
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This is from USA Today:

"Mandela veered from non-violence as a method for change and argued for setting up a military wing of the ANC and violent tactics to bring down apartheid...In 1961, Mandela became the leader of the ANC's armed wing in which he oversaw bomb attacks against government buildings. He was designated a terrorist by the white government and arrested in 1962. In June 1964, he was sentenced along with seven others to life in prison for plotting to overthrow the government through hundreds of acts of sabotage...

He spent 18 years of his imprisonment at Robben Island Prison off Cape Town, where the harsh conditions included laboring in a lime quarry. During that time, he became the focus of an international campaign for release led by his lifelong friend and law partner, Oliver Tambo, and Mandela's wife, Winnie, whom he married in 1958 after his first marriage to Evelyn Mase ended in 1957.

In the 1980s, the ANC under Tambo ramped up bombing attacks to include civilian targets. In one of the worst examples, an ANC car bomb exploded in downtown Pretoria in May 1983, killing 19 people.

In an attempt to calm the violence, President P.W. Botha offered in 1985 to free Mandela if he would renounce violence as a tool for change. Mandela refused."

Mandela was a murdering terrorist. That doesn't make him a hero. Neither does his spending 18 years in prison. He could have followed in the footsteps of Mahatma Gandhi advocating nonviolent rebellion, and been a truly great and heroic figure, but instead he became a leader in a terrorist organization directing bombings against the government and innocent people, and refused to renounce violence even while in prison. Mandela was a terrorist dirtbag.
DipperDon (6457 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
And the above doesn't even mention the fact that he abandoned his first wife and children. A quote from the first Mrs. Mandela when he was going to be freed from prison: "How can a man who has committed adultery and left his wife and children be Christ? The whole world worships Nelson too much. He is only a man."
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
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Are we talking about Nelson Mandela or Newt Gingrich?
DipperDon (6457 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Stupid comment bosox. You can't make Mandela a better person by pointing out the faults in others. He was a dirtbag, and pointing the finger at others won't change that.
ILN (100 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Moral of the story,
Mandela was a great man.
Bosox is utterly retarded.
Don has screwed views on Mandela.

Putin is still a rapist.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
Then nothing's changed.
Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
The apartheid state would have just gone away if Mandela had asked nicely. And DipshitDon needn't worry about the victims of Pretorian South Africa whom Mandela spoke up for and empowered to free themselves of its yoke. Nor need he give him any credit for the racial reconciliation policies he implemented afterwards, which the Afrikaners did not deserve.

I'm sure Dipshit Don would be as merciful to his tormenters as Mandela was.

Oh and btw, if you're going to engage in sleazy character assassination by pointing out stuff about Mandela's personal life, you better also piss on the grave of Gandhi, who you shambolically claim is your model.
Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Incidentally, the partition of India which Gandhi caused killed many many more times the number of people than the ANC's resistance campaign against the Afrikaner surplus expropriators. Not that you care.

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Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Supreme Court to rule on software patents
Could software patents be abolished?

http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/12/court-to-rule-on-patent-rights/
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mendax (321 D)
27 Nov 13 UTC
Webdip F2F UK
There's been some interest in the other F2F topic of setting up a UK meet as well, probably in Bristol. Who's interested?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
05 Dec 13 UTC
War on Christmas
How have YOU been persecuted this year?
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Jkeil (0 DX)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Is this a game error?
I'm playing a game with some friends, and the last turn's orders ended up very strange. I don't believe that everyone missed turns, but there are almost no orders showing on the map. And even if everyone had missed their turn, there is no explanation for the army in kiel being dislodged. Please take a look: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128965
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Poor Casting Choices and Underwood Sings--NOT a Few of My Favorite Things!
So...Carrie Underwood doing "The Sound of Music." Kids that were stiffer than cardboard as the Von Trapp family. A black nun in Nazi Austria (I'm all for color-blind casting, but...was there no other role for her, a black nun in Nazi Austria just on the verge of WWII just seems an indication the production team didn't care one bit about the setting) and so on...this was a thing that happened. Thoughts on Carrie Underwood's "The Sound of Music" remake?
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ccga4 (1831 D(B))
07 Dec 13 UTC
giving players their points back.. a bad idea?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/pb75.jpg/

I have never run into this problem before, but this is very frustrating. Giving players under 100 D their points back, puts an unfair twist in the game. In the game i played with this player, we almost had a draw forced against one larger power, and he decided to attack me.
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
06 Dec 13 UTC
World Cup Draw
Starting now!
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krellin (80 DX)
06 Dec 13 UTC
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Obama Hates Eagles
Spread a little DDT and your an evil bastard. But Obama LOVES to kill him some Bald Eagles...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/05/Obama-to-Sign-Rule-Allowing-Death-of-Eagles
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Andrew Wiggin (157 D)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Nooby question.
Unit A supports Unit B who is supporting unit C.
If Unit B gets support attacked will the support to Unit C be cut?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
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Unarmed Man Charged for Stray Gunfire
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=0

I read this article three times over and can't understand how police shooting bystanders is now the fault of the guy they are shooting at....
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SYnapse (0 DX)
05 Dec 13 UTC
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Trollo Gospel
Just waking up in the morning, gotta drink beer
I don't know but today seems kinda wierd
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Dec 13 UTC
Birthday Present
If anyone wants to buy me this for my birthday, let me know. I'll love you five-ever. (Get it.. forever... four-ever... five..... yeah, okay...........)

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?aunbr=19684808&partnerId=as_mlb_20131206_15329114&prmenbr=33072944&prrfnbr=19684808
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SYnapse (0 DX)
06 Dec 13 UTC
Mandela - Hero. Kony - Terrorist.
Discuss, I'm not in favour of one or the other.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
20 Nov 13 UTC
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"I work for a living"
Why does your middle-class job make you some kind of badass?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Dec 13 UTC
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Socialism in America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

combined with money is speech/corporations are people, and unlimited funding of political parties, I suppose this helps demonstrate why 80-90% of the people do not have the voting power to change things...
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Thegatso (234 D(B))
05 Dec 13 UTC
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I FINALLY DID IT LMAO
http://puu.sh/5Dkeq.png

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL AM I GOOD AT DIPLOMACAY NOW?
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TheNotoriousAMP (100 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Rules Question
Okay, so there is an enemy unit in a province. If two of my units are both ordered to move into the province, is that unit dislodged and do my units then bounce off of each other?
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MeowdolfKittler (100 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
How do i quit a game
How do i quit a game?
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diplomate44 (0 DX)
05 Dec 13 UTC
How to kick away games i ve been defeated
Hello, just want to know how to make the game ive been defeated dissapered from my home page, if there is a way of course! Thanks
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virtuslex (483 D(S))
05 Dec 13 UTC
Site Strategy Differences
Sociological observations from a nonsociologist.
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President Eden (2750 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Humanity's a lot, lot, lot older than you think!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/science/at-400000-years-oldest-human-dna-yet-found-raises-new-mysteries.html?
4x as old per the New York Times. That might not be wholly accurate, but regardless, 400,000 is much older than any fossil to date. Thoughts?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Four Reasons We Need to Start Making Fun of Terrorists
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-reasons-we-need-to-start-making-fun-terrorists/
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Maniac (189 D(B))
03 Dec 13 UTC
Pisa tests
I know you will all get the first part of this question right but you need to guess the second part...(no cheating)
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ILN (100 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
explains a lot....
http://www.cracked.com/article_19889_6-insane-things-science-can-predict-about-you-at-infancy_p2.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage

lol
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grking (100 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Eunuch Campaigns in India
Found this rather interesting, I really didn't know there were that many Eunuchs any more.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/world/asia/a-eunuch-in-india-campaigns-as-a-political-none-of-the-above.html
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kalbim (100 D)
05 Dec 13 UTC
Afterthoughts of game "Invade Poseidon"
Any thoughts on how the game went?

gameID=129826
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