Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

You are incorrect if you think I have been assuming you are scum, and I am certainly not basing my reads off of it. I would say the opposite is true, I suspect you are scum because I do not see where your reads are coming from. emc claimed tree stump D1, with all of the scum fake claim roles available.

And that cleared him? Wouldn't it be the ideal claim for scum then? That claim was NAI and complete wifom.

Do you really think ItsHosuke, as a new player, is equally as likely to choose a fake role to claim without being able to talk to his teammates as he is to claim his real role as town?

How could I know? I knew nothing about Hosuke, and still know very little. And if you remember, my starting position was NOT to lynch him, and the only reason I wanted to make a wagon on him was because he was the best way I had to save damo and Percy. And there was zero chance of a mislynch there. And if we lynched him correctly I was pretty sure Fox would be scum with him. And exposing the masons was not a big deal, because if we didn't do it that day we would have to do it the next day as Hosuke would still remain a talking point. I already explained this to you, so the fact you keep bringing it up is part of what makes me think you're scum.

These were obvious town claims to me, yet you helped lynch emc D2 after forcing Foxcastle to reveal on the premise you did not believe ItsHosuke.

They were not obvious town claims to me, neither of them.

However, when Percy and Chaqa claim under pressure, you are confident they are town. My read on all four has nothing to do with what I think of your alignment. It is possible Percy and Chaqa are town and I am missing scum in flash, foodcoats, and Jamie, but I do not like how Percy and Chaqa are getting by after making scum indicative claims under pressure.

Fine, as I said I don't fully townclear them. You wanting to lynch Chaqa could even be justifiable. Your scumread of me I think is hard to justify, but I may not be objective there. Some of your other actions this game (regarding damo for example) I find very hard to justify.

[xorxes]

Seriously though, the great xorxes, the best towniest towny town player out there, is trying to spin that the scum want to keep tom alive (a town clear) longer so they won't kill him and thus we keep Chaqa around?

Have you lost your mind?

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying.

What I'm saying is: if Chaqa is the Lover and scum think that Chaqa chose brainbombadil as his loved one, then they won't kill Tom (unless it secures the win) because leaving Chaqa around will keep being a distraction to town, as we need to figure out whether we need to kill him or not.

If Chaqa is scum, the mafia are keeping Tom alive to avoid disproving Chaqa's claim. This is more likely than the reverse.

That's possible too, which would be another reason not to lynch him before EP/dargo.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok Worcej has persuaded me.

##VOTE CHAQA

My other scumreads are:

- Bozotheclown
- Dargorygel
- Xorxes

...in that order.

[Jamiet99uk]

I see that it is now my turn to claim.

This will be fun.

Get ready.

[Foxcastle]

I’ve got a few things to take care of this morning but I should be around for EOD. I’m a bit concerned we don’t have more of a consensus but I believe we will get there. Hopefully Tom and Fox are around.

I am catching up. I find appeals to town scummy. I have found you scummy all game. I am not sure we should lynch you today, though.

But yeah, hopefully Tom is around.

[xorxes]

You should see that there is no down side to lynching Chaqa today.

The downside I see is that we probably lose Tom and that we have fewer numbers tomorrow to kill a potential cow.

That is meaningless if we lose today, and we would still have the same number of town whether Tom gets NKed or not.

How would we have the same number? If Chaqa is town, we would have two fewer townies tomorrow (Chaqa and Tom).

[xorxes]

Chaqa, flash, Espresso, bo_sox, Jamiet could you give your comments on these posts please:

This is a false narrative. I lost track of time and did not realise the night had ended.

If you're asking me if that's a tracker breadcrumb, it is not. I am not the tracker.

What are you? You're the last one left to claim.

[Jamiet99uk]

:DRUMROLL:

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay, here it is.

I am the ORACLE. Highly ironic, given my real life handsomeness, that I would have to play as such an ugly creature as the Anglerfish, but such is life.

I crumbed my role on page 50 when I mentioned Ceefax. Ceefax was a British television-based "teletext" information system, almost a precursor to some of the basic functions of the internet, but accessed via a television signal where appropriately equipped television sets could display up to 999 indexed, regularly updated pages of news, weather, sports, entertainment, cookery, listings, etc.

Ceefax was one of two rival UK teletext systems. The other system was called...

**ORACLE**

That was my crumb.

I also softed my role a couple of times, like on page 149 where I listed a bunch of roles in lower case, but I used an initial capital letter for "Oracle".

I am currently set to reveal Xorxes if I am killed.

[xorxes]

Okay, here it is.

I am the ORACLE. Highly ironic, given my real life handsomeness, that I would have to play as such an ugly creature as the Anglerfish, but such is life.

I crumbed my role on page 50 when I mentioned Ceefax. Ceefax was a British television-based "teletext" information system, almost a precursor to some of the basic functions of the internet, but accessed via a television signal where appropriately equipped television sets could display up to 999 indexed, regularly updated pages of news, weather, sports, entertainment, cookery, listings, etc.

Ceefax was one of two rival UK teletext systems. The other system was called...

**ORACLE**

That was my crumb.

I also softed my role a couple of times, like on page 149 where I listed a bunch of roles in lower case, but I used an initial capital letter for "Oracle".

I am currently set to reveal Xorxes if I am killed.

What a waste of a power when I would be revealed D7.

What do you make of worcej softing Oracle?

@worcej, why did you soft Oracle?

[Jamiet99uk]

Where did Worcej do that?

Worcej has claimed he is the Okapi, a VT.

[xorxes]

Where did Worcej do that?

Worcej has claimed he is the Okapi, a VT.

When he was a possible lynch. Why were you not paying attention to those things?

[EspressoPatronum]

If Jamie was the last to claim, I know now why scum counterclaimed!

One of them lied in the DP smokescreen! That's why darg wanted to know the situations in which town would lie in the smokescreen. My answer - that it's anti-town to lie in that scenario - cut out their DP fakeclaim.

[EspressoPatronum]

If Jamie was the last to claim, I know now why scum counterclaimed!

One of them lied in the DP smokescreen! That's why darg wanted to know the situations in which town would lie in the smokescreen. My answer - that it's anti-town to lie in that scenario - cut out their DP fakeclaim.

To be clear, everyone lied in the smokescreen.

I bet scum out down a target that didn't die before the smokescreen was revealed. A scum claiming DP now would say that their target died in D1. They can't do that now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where did Worcej do that?

Worcej has claimed he is the Okapi, a VT.

When he was a possible lynch. Why were you not paying attention to those things?

Oh I am so very sorry, please forgive mem O mighty and perfect one.

I must have missed it. Can you point me to the page?

[xorxes]

Where did Worcej do that?

Worcej has claimed he is the Okapi, a VT.

When he was a possible lynch. Why were you not paying attention to those things?

Oh I am so very sorry, please forgive mem O mighty and perfect one.

I must have missed it. Can you point me to the page?

I would rather worcej first tell us if it was meant as a soft or not, and if yes then explain why he did it.

[EspressoPatronum]

Final DP smokescreen results. Return to this if town!DP dies without a reveal.

EspressoPatronum (complete) [damo]
bozo (complete) [chaqa]
Vapor (complete) [foodcoats]
foodcoats (complete) [damo]
flash (complete) [bo_sox]
bo_sox (refused)
Jamie (complete) [Jamie]
worcej (refused)
dargorygel (complete) [Brain]
damo (complete) [Bozo]

For analysis later. Gotta catch a train in a few mins.

[xorxes]

So Divine Presence and Absorber are the two roles left unclaimed.

At least one of them was in the scum's fakelist, possibly both if Jamiet is scum.

[EspressoPatronum]

Final DP smokescreen results. Return to this if town!DP dies without a reveal.

EspressoPatronum (complete) [damo]
bozo (complete) [chaqa]
Vapor (complete) [foodcoats]
foodcoats (complete) [damo]
flash (complete) [bo_sox]
bo_sox (refused)
Jamie (complete) [Jamie]
worcej (refused)
dargorygel (complete) [Brain]
damo (complete) [Bozo]

For analysis later. Gotta catch a train in a few mins.

Working through my DP lie theory rq, here are my immediate thoughts:

Worcej and bo_sox refused to participate. If they were maf, they would have been the obvious choices to take the DP claim later in the game. Town cred to them.

Neph said in a GM note, "The Divine Presence's Target is only notified if they have a power to lose." Therefore, anyone who listed a role that was later been confirmed not-VT cannot be DP. Bozo, darg, foodcoats stand out here.

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I'm not sure why the maf didn't just take their chances with a VT fakeclaim instead of going for a 1v1.

[xorxes]

@Fox, if we're lynching dargo I would rather you not be part of the lynchsquad, but you would need to tell someone to get off of Chaqa.

I think Hosuke may be safer, although I don't relly know what cow!dargo would choose.