Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Balki Bartokomous]

@ND, what is your stance on Xorxes now? Do you agree that he is the best lynch candidate? I read your ISO. You have mentioned that Xorx looks suspicious several times, but doesn't seem like you've focused on him.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I think either way though, Nephthys shouldn't be a lynch, because in this hypothetical the real judge puts Nephthys as one of the two options, and then they get lynched.

10/10. Would read again.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Team Scum is definitely smarter than Team Town in this game.

Gotta be Xorx.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Squigs, come solve with me. What's the full team?

[Squigs44]

@Squigs, come solve with me. What's the full team?

There's not enough people in POE and too many pairings that don't make sense as scum/scum to solve the whole team but I'll give it my best shot.

[ND]

@ND, what is your stance on Xorxes now? Do you agree that he is the best lynch candidate? I read your ISO. You have mentioned that Xorx looks suspicious several times, but doesn't seem like you've focused on him.

Yeah man, I listed three players I would vote for, but I haven't made a decision yet. I'm not going to be hasty.

[ChippeRock]

@Chippe,

Let's say that it's me and rdrivera on the scum team together going into today. For the scenario you are describing to make sense, we would have to decide that we would both come forward and fake claim in order to pull off a mislynch. We would have had to be extremely confident that Neph was Judge and Tom was reporter. Because if either of those things turned out wrong, our plan would fail. But we would have had no way to know either one.

Also, both of us were widely townread coming into today. Why would we be the two people selected to pull this off?

Also, that would not work because there would be a real Blind Assassin out there who would just CC my claim. I am confirmed Blind Assassin at this point. A real Blind Assassin would CC, as he would need town to get this right.

What are you talking about? I never said you were on the scumteam with rdrivera. Are you sure that you read what I said?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@ND, what is your stance on Xorxes now? Do you agree that he is the best lynch candidate? I read your ISO. You have mentioned that Xorx looks suspicious several times, but doesn't seem like you've focused on him.

Yeah man, I listed three players I would vote for, but I haven't made a decision yet. I'm not going to be hasty.

Will you ultimately sheep rdrivera?

[ND]

@ND, what is your stance on Xorxes now? Do you agree that he is the best lynch candidate? I read your ISO. You have mentioned that Xorx looks suspicious several times, but doesn't seem like you've focused on him.

Yeah man, I listed three players I would vote for, but I haven't made a decision yet. I'm not going to be hasty.

Will you ultimately sheep rdrivera?

His vote is his own vote. When I vote I'll explain my decision.

[Squigs44]

Players in my POE:
FlaviusAetius
FoxCastle
Xorxes
Percy
et
teacon
ND
damo
peter
connor

We need 6/10 for the full scumteam.

Does teacon, Xorxes, ND, connor, peter, damo make sense?

et doesn't fit with ND, the Percy/Xorxes interaction is strange, and Flav and Fox have had so many people pushing on them that it is simplest if they are both town. Out of Flav/Fox, Flav is more likely scum imo, he could replace connor/peter/damo possibly.

Thinking through full teams, it is hard to put a team together without teacon on the team, so I would be willing to lynch him if things went that way. The Percy/Xorxes interaction is giving me a lot of hesitation on both of them.

[ND]

Oh lord this is getting stupid

[Durga]

Neph - Discussing it isn't scummy. It might be a waste of time, but it's not scummy. I did say I wasn't going to lynch you today, and I also said that you weren't confirmed as anything until mechanically cleared. Chippe's right in this: you're statistically more likely to be scumPR than townPR.

wtf teacon pls

[Durga]

You understand that if he isn't Judge the Judge can just stay quiet and choose him tomorrow to be one of his targets? It's an horrible play as scum to fake claim Judge.

It still is good play as they can get us to do a misogyny this phase, and then we still need to lynch five mafia correctly to win.

Let's do a misogyny and lynch Durga!

[ND]

ET Part 2

Unfortunately, ET is not a friendly extraterrestrial. He is a mafia man. I had it right D2 as did many others. If you want to read Part 1 it’s on Page 128. Part 2 will focus on ET D3.

Page 175: ET begins the day by voting for Balki and telling Rdr great job. He doesn’t think Rdr’s claim is fake. Says, if “Balki is town” we will wee that D3 and that rdr will be killed by BA?

Page 176: Reiterates his vote and says that TrPrado’s scan may be a hint. I agree here, but unfortunately this has been very interpretative and hard to nail down. He says, on Page 176, “I can read Tom and Durga must be town from that.” In reference to a query about the Judge. So, if I am understanding this right. He is reading Tom who was just night killed. What else could Tom be? WTF?

Page 177-9: Asks Balki if he is BA. says scum will rb Balki and kill rdr night 3. Thanks for telling us your plan ET. Says he doesn’t have conclusion right now but wants Balki as a safety option. Says he thinks Fox is scummiest before Rdr’s claim. That’s news to me because in his reads on Page 159 he has Fox listed in ‘the middle’ and not in the scum or town category. He also never mentions Fox scumreading Teacon in this. There is literally nothing from 159-179 to indicate that he changed his ‘mind’ on Fox as he claims. I suspect he changed his mind when Fox got some votes and he was looking for a wagon.

Page 191: He wants to lynch Connor. Again, Connor was a null on his reads list from 159. He admittedly says he has no read of him here yet wants to lynch him. Agrees with not lynching Fox. Which indicates a change (admittedly I had this change too) couples Fox with the hooker though on page 191. Says he thinks Neph is scum. Votes Connor because he wants him to talk. Yeah, game is on the line and he wants someone to talk so votes for them. Wtf? I’ve answered his idiotic questions as well by saying who I think is scum. Buddies Drugna and Squigs on page 191 “What a good townreading you are! I confident you (and Squigs) are town too.” (Page 191) Asks Flav if he is more towny than Durga lol. No way on planet earth ET is town people.

Page 192: Asks Xorxes some questions, asks Percy some questions, says he didn’t read M1007. Has me and Damo as scum yet he is voting for his null read Conner. Makes no sense. Well it does if you were scum and didn't want to make waves so threw your vote on someone who was obviously MIA. Confused about a GM note on Page 194. Asks why Chippie and I wanted to lynch Fox on Page 195. HUH? He literally was throwing shade at Fox? In pages 177-179.
WTF? Wants to lynch Connor for lurking on Page 196. Says xorxes lynch is better page 196. Xorxes is only better in his mind now because Xorxes has the vote. This illustrates the pattern. ET votes the wagon and is playing cautious atm.

Thoughts
He is going to blend in with whatever the dominant conversation is. We see this by him buddying Durga and Squigs who were involved in a lot of conversation. We see this by him being suspicious of Fox and mentioning that TrPrado must have found something which is what I suggested. We see this by him reverting to a null read and voting Connor despite having so-called scum reads (me and that is solely because I have figured him out). Then as Xorxes piles up votes Et is now softing and preparing his vote on Xorxes. Don’t worry guys I am sure he will have a change of mind and vote whoever the big wagon is Xorxes or whoever. He is blending in, being cautious with his vote, buddying up, offering no real thoughts or analysis, going along with the flow, and will mark my fricking words end up on whoever is the big wagon (unless it’s him).

He’s scum. We should have lynched him and not Espresso. Damn all of you who let this guy get away D2. I seriously do not give AF. I’m voting this guy. Goodbye ET. Your scum. Your done.

##VOTE ET

[ChippeRock]

Neph - Discussing it isn't scummy. It might be a waste of time, but it's not scummy. I did say I wasn't going to lynch you today, and I also said that you weren't confirmed as anything until mechanically cleared. Chippe's right in this: you're statistically more likely to be scumPR than townPR.

wtf teacon pls

Sees "Chippe's right", says *WTF teacon*.

[ND]

tldr for the dense mental midget idiots out there ET is scum. I'm voting for him. He's my top read.

[Durga]

ND please. Just follow rdr when he votes

[ChippeRock]

@et, please answer the following: How many games of Mafia (in real life, elsewhere online, etc.,) have you played before you started playing this game of Mafia?

[ChippeRock]

ND please. Just follow rdr when he votes

That's just dumb. Sure, rdrivera is "confirmed" town, but his opinions are as good as ours are when it comes to finding scum.

[ND]

Nah Durga I've made my vote and my case and I stand by that.