M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

if balki is scum, and town kills him:
-> if only he is scum, gg
-> else, we have a 2v1 standard lylo

if balki is scum, and town kills someone else:
-> if we get a second scum, it's 3 town vs 1 scum with scum!balki getting two kills. gg
-> if we vote out town, it's 2 town vs 2 scum with two nks. gg

if balki is town and town kills a town:
-> it's 2 town vs 2 scum (unless you want to bet glomb was scum), gg

if balki is town and town kills a scum:
-> it's 3 town vs 1 scum, with both scum and town getting an effective nk. if town!balki using the poison prevents dk usage and it's over one way or another

if we are in a world with two scum, one of whom is balki, we must kill balki

[Bonatogether]

my called shot is that i've been right the whole game and it's yavulki/will/bunny

[Bonatogether]

##vote balki

[Bonatogether]

i was going to say that i've never made it to lylo as town before but i remembered that that's not true, i've been killed at lylo before

[Balki Bartokomous]

if balki is scum, and town kills him:
-> if only he is scum, gg
-> else, we have a 2v1 standard lylo

if balki is scum, and town kills someone else:
-> if we get a second scum, it's 3 town vs 1 scum with scum!balki getting two kills. gg
-> if we vote out town, it's 2 town vs 2 scum with two nks. gg

if balki is town and town kills a town:
-> it's 2 town vs 2 scum (unless you want to bet glomb was scum), gg

if balki is town and town kills a scum:
-> it's 3 town vs 1 scum, with both scum and town getting an effective nk. if town!balki using the poison prevents dk usage and it's over one way or another

if we are in a world with two scum, one of whom is balki, we must kill balki

If we are in a world with two scum, we have to kill scum regardless, right?

Aren't we at 3-2?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Oh, I get what you are saying. You are saying that if I am scum, and we chop my partner, scum would still win because Scum!Balki would get two kills tonight.

I guess that is correct.

[Balki Bartokomous]

The main problem with that analysis, though, is that I am Town.

So, I guess a bright side of not chopping me today is that I will become a clear.

Though, then I'll probably die tonight. And I'll get an opportunity to poison someone for the win...

Will it make sense for me to use the poison?

If we correctly kill scum, it'll be 3-1. If I just hold my poison, it will be 2-1 on the last day. If I use it, I have to hit scum.... I guess I would probably use it? But either way I am going to have to read the damn game.

Rats.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Okay, so what do we know?

World 1
Day 1
JustAGuyNamedWill (5) miminena Bonatogether BunnyGo yavuzovic Chomps
yavuzovic (4) damo666 DiplomacyandWarfare ButterscotchReader GlitterBomb
DiplomacyandWarfare(1) Jamiet99uk

Day 2
GlitterBomb (5) miminena Krr1ss DiplomacyandWarfare Jamiet99uk yavuzovic
DiplomacyandWarfare (3) BunnyGo* GlitterBomb Chomps
BunnyGo (1) Bonatogether

Day 3
Chomps (4) DiplomacyandWarfare* Krr1ss BunnyGo miminena
BunnyGo (2) Bonatogether Balki Bartokomous
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Chomps

World 2
Day 1
JustAGuyNamedWill (5) miminena Bonatogether BunnyGo yavuzovic Chomps
yavuzovic (4) damo666 DiplomacyandWarfare ButterscotchReader GlitterBomb
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Jamiet99uk

Day 2
GlitterBomb (5) miminena Krr1ss DiplomacyandWarfare Jamiet99uk yavuzovic
DiplomacyandWarfare (3) BunnyGo* GlitterBomb Chomps
BunnyGo (1) Bonatogether

Day 3
Chomps (4) DiplomacyandWarfare* Krr1ss BunnyGo miminena
BunnyGo (2) Bonatogether Balki Bartokomous
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Chomps

[Bonatogether]

Oh, I get what you are saying. You are saying that if I am scum, and we chop my partner, scum would still win because Scum!Balki would get two kills tonight.

I guess that is correct.

yep

[Bonatogether]

if balki is scum, and town kills him:
-> if only he is scum, gg
-> else, we have a 2v1 standard lylo

if balki is scum, and town kills someone else:
-> if we get a second scum, it's 3 town vs 1 scum with scum!balki getting two kills. gg
-> if we vote out town, it's 2 town vs 2 scum with two nks. gg

if balki is town and town kills a town:
-> it's 2 town vs 2 scum (unless you want to bet glomb was scum), gg

if balki is town and town kills a scum:
-> it's 3 town vs 1 scum, with both scum and town getting an effective nk. if town!balki using the poison prevents dk usage and it's over one way or another

if we are in a world with two scum, one of whom is balki, we must kill balki

If we are in a world with two scum, we have to kill scum regardless, right?

Aren't we at 3-2?

we're at 3-2 if glomb is town (which i believe) and 4-1 if glomb was scum (highly highly unlikely)

[Bonatogether]

The main problem with that analysis, though, is that I am Town.

So, I guess a bright side of not chopping me today is that I will become a clear.

Though, then I'll probably die tonight. And I'll get an opportunity to poison someone for the win...

Will it make sense for me to use the poison?

If we correctly kill scum, it'll be 3-1. If I just hold my poison, it will be 2-1 on the last day. If I use it, I have to hit scum.... I guess I would probably use it? But either way I am going to have to read the damn game.

Rats.

if you're town i sympathize with your predicament. i vote no poison use because i would like to get a vote, but if you survive you can't be stopped, so

[Bonatogether]

Okay, so what do we know?

World 1
Day 1
JustAGuyNamedWill (5) miminena Bonatogether BunnyGo yavuzovic Chomps
yavuzovic (4) damo666 DiplomacyandWarfare ButterscotchReader GlitterBomb
DiplomacyandWarfare(1) Jamiet99uk

Day 2
GlitterBomb (5) miminena Krr1ss DiplomacyandWarfare Jamiet99uk yavuzovic
DiplomacyandWarfare (3) BunnyGo* GlitterBomb Chomps
BunnyGo (1) Bonatogether

Day 3
Chomps (4) DiplomacyandWarfare* Krr1ss BunnyGo miminena
BunnyGo (2) Bonatogether Balki Bartokomous
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Chomps

World 2
Day 1
JustAGuyNamedWill (5) miminena Bonatogether BunnyGo yavuzovic Chomps
yavuzovic (4) damo666 DiplomacyandWarfare ButterscotchReader GlitterBomb
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Jamiet99uk

Day 2
GlitterBomb (5) miminena Krr1ss DiplomacyandWarfare Jamiet99uk yavuzovic
DiplomacyandWarfare (3) BunnyGo* GlitterBomb Chomps
BunnyGo (1) Bonatogether

Day 3
Chomps (4) DiplomacyandWarfare* Krr1ss BunnyGo miminena
BunnyGo (2) Bonatogether Balki Bartokomous
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) Chomps

world where chomps is scum doesn't make a ton of sense

[Balki Bartokomous]

we're at 3-2 if glomb is town (which i believe) and 4-1 if glomb was scum (highly highly unlikely)

Why do you think it is highly likely that glomb was town?

[Balki Bartokomous]

world where chomps is scum doesn't make a ton of sense

Why?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm on board about mimi, but now that Bunny has backed off his "I'm a lying liar who lies" opening, he's squarely null for me again. Would you share your thoughts on Bunny?

Tell me about mimi…what about her posts seem towny to you?

She thought my interaction with Will was weird, and it was, but not because we're a pairing, but there's no way for her to know that. She questioned about the statement that players in this particular build will need to be willing to lie. She seems to be coming from a place of--I guess the term would be "open awareness" like she's paying very fine tuned attention to the thread but letting the thread talk to her instead of her putting her voice into the thread. It feels like she's looking for people to trust and mistrust.

A villagery post from Krr1ss's predecessor.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Do we know for sure that Bunny is the Apprentice?

Assume Bunny is a Wolf, for a moment. Do we know he is Apprentice?

If you are a Wolf!Apprentice, what role would you choose? I think the answer is probably Inquisitor, but I'm not sure.

Do we know anything about the PRs of the people who were NKed?

I am trying to read the game, but it's slow going, and I'm only on page 14.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Hebbo.

It looks like I have some catching up to do.

Are the mice declaring or something? Why would that be happening....

(Starts reading)

They don’t have a chat and it only takes one to decide to.

Yavu named Mimi as the other mouse he found most scummy.

Dano and Butter declared yavu scummier for doing this.

I think both are towny, and that yavu goofed on a reasonable gambit.

This post looks wolfy to me from Bunny. You've got two town mice essentially stuck in a Thunderdome, and Bunny is sitting back and calling them both towny, which is an easy thing to do from a scum point of view. I think Town!Bunny feels more suspicious and less certain in the "I think both are towny" declaration.

[Bonatogether]

we're at 3-2 if glomb is town (which i believe) and 4-1 if glomb was scum (highly highly unlikely)

Why do you think it is highly likely that glomb was town?

the push on them made no sense and they seemed earnestly towny. i'm ok being wrong about this because it means we have a bonus extra kill

[Bonatogether]

world where chomps is scum doesn't make a ton of sense

Why?

it would mean on d2, every scum member (assuming bongo is scum) voted to save glomb

[Bonatogether]

Do we know for sure that Bunny is the Apprentice?

Assume Bunny is a Wolf, for a moment. Do we know he is Apprentice?

If you are a Wolf!Apprentice, what role would you choose? I think the answer is probably Inquisitor, but I'm not sure.

Do we know anything about the PRs of the people who were NKed?

I am trying to read the game, but it's slow going, and I'm only on page 14.

we don't know but there's no reason to care