M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

Those are all useful AF if town.

But spuritualist has easy way to claim. And it would be useful if they live to tomorrow to claim and use…

[Jamiet99uk]

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

There are 9 players left, of whom either 6 or 7 are town.

So the fact that there are probably three town with hidden powers means something, and I don't like the fact that you just want town with powers to reveal themselves to the scum team. PR hunting is scummy.

[Krr1ss]

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What is the purpose of this post? I am confused.

Easier to read Bofa when he’s slightly agitated. He’s always obnoxious, but when agitated he shows his hand more.

And the other post was pure unadulterated Bunny (TM)

That's a valid tactic and that's all cool but personally I hate playing with people's emotions in order to read (or calling them obnoxious and stuff) because I play this first and foremost as a game and to have fun. And degree of ruining that is not appreciated and if possible, don't use anything like that to me.

Also, town in bad mood is always worse than town in good mood so keep that in mind if you are town. If you are scum then you are doing well with that

[Krr1ss]

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

Those are all useful AF if town.

But spuritualist has easy way to claim. And it would be useful if they live to tomorrow to claim and use…

I'd rule Judge as useless tbh but I get your point

[Krr1ss]

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

There are 9 players left, of whom either 6 or 7 are town.

So the fact that there are probably three town with hidden powers means something, and I don't like the fact that you just want town with powers to reveal themselves to the scum team. PR hunting is scummy.

Are you implying that everyone who didn't claim is town?

[Krr1ss]

Okay I gotta dip for a bit

[Jamiet99uk]

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

There are 9 players left, of whom either 6 or 7 are town.

So the fact that there are probably three town with hidden powers means something, and I don't like the fact that you just want town with powers to reveal themselves to the scum team. PR hunting is scummy.

Are you implying that everyone who didn't claim is town?

Not necessarily, but I am implying that your push for mass-claiming is not helpful to town, and is potentially scum-motivated, and if there are town with useful powers still unused, you are putting them at risk.

[BunnyGo]

<snip>
What is the purpose of this post? I am confused.

Easier to read Bofa when he’s slightly agitated. He’s always obnoxious, but when agitated he shows his hand more.

And the other post was pure unadulterated Bunny (TM)

That's a valid tactic and that's all cool but personally I hate playing with people's emotions in order to read (or calling them obnoxious and stuff) because I play this first and foremost as a game and to have fun. And degree of ruining that is not appreciated and if possible, don't use anything like that to me.

Also, town in bad mood is always worse than town in good mood so keep that in mind if you are town. If you are scum then you are doing well with that

Bofa started it

[BunnyGo]

<snip>
What is the purpose of this post? I am confused.

Easier to read Bofa when he’s slightly agitated. He’s always obnoxious, but when agitated he shows his hand more.

And the other post was pure unadulterated Bunny (TM)

That's a valid tactic and that's all cool but personally I hate playing with people's emotions in order to read (or calling them obnoxious and stuff) because I play this first and foremost as a game and to have fun. And degree of ruining that is not appreciated and if possible, don't use anything like that to me.

Also, town in bad mood is always worse than town in good mood so keep that in mind if you are town. If you are scum then you are doing well with that

You’ll also find (if you play multiple games with me), I have very little filter and just post what I’m thinking as most alignments.

1st half of day 1 is usually a gimmick and otherwise unfiltered mentally ill Bunny!

[Krr1ss]

There are 9 players left, of whom either 6 or 7 are town.

So the fact that there are probably three town with hidden powers means something, and I don't like the fact that you just want town with powers to reveal themselves to the scum team. PR hunting is scummy.

Are you implying that everyone who didn't claim is town?

Not necessarily, but I am implying that your push for mass-claiming is not helpful to town, and is potentially scum-motivated, and if there are town with useful powers still unused, you are putting them at risk.

I whole heartedly disagree because from what I understood, we have like 5/6 claims already. If there is even 1 scum in the rest of the claim that means that scum pretty much has an idea of who is or can be what role.

Also, as I already stated, those are roles not worth protecting except for spiritualist and maybe appreantice, depends on Chomps alignment. We don't know whether appreantice decided to sub as gravedigger (the only good choice) and if they did, whether they are town or scum. We also don't know Chomps Alignment. Chomps is likely not to be NKed as either alignment because of:
1. Angels
2. Scum

So that means that appreantice is effectively useless as a role in this small game because gravedigger will NOT be used again after tomorrow probably just based on our numbers.

On the other hand, spiritualist is useful to check what role someone was when we can't see gravedigger so I do agree that protecting spiritualist at least for today is useful

[Jamiet99uk]

Are you implying that everyone who didn't claim is town?

Not necessarily, but I am implying that your push for mass-claiming is not helpful to town, and is potentially scum-motivated, and if there are town with useful powers still unused, you are putting them at risk.

I whole heartedly disagree because from what I understood, we have like 5/6 claims already. If there is even 1 scum in the rest of the claim that means that scum pretty much has an idea of who is or can be what role.

Also, as I already stated, those are roles not worth protecting except for spiritualist and maybe appreantice, depends on Chomps alignment. We don't know whether appreantice decided to sub as gravedigger (the only good choice) and if they did, whether they are town or scum. We also don't know Chomps Alignment. Chomps is likely not to be NKed as either alignment because of:
1. Angels
2. Scum

So that means that appreantice is effectively useless as a role in this small game because gravedigger will NOT be used again after tomorrow probably just based on our numbers.

On the other hand, spiritualist is useful to check what role someone was when we can't see gravedigger so I do agree that protecting spiritualist at least for today is useful

But if you force everyone except the spiritualist to claim, and if everyone does claim accurately, then you expose the spiritualist. So your massclaim is still a bad idea, isn't it? It effectively means you're hunting for the spiritualist.

[Krr1ss]

Not necessarily, but I am implying that your push for mass-claiming is not helpful to town, and is potentially scum-motivated, and if there are town with useful powers still unused, you are putting them at risk.

I whole heartedly disagree because from what I understood, we have like 5/6 claims already. If there is even 1 scum in the rest of the claim that means that scum pretty much has an idea of who is or can be what role.

Also, as I already stated, those are roles not worth protecting except for spiritualist and maybe appreantice, depends on Chomps alignment. We don't know whether appreantice decided to sub as gravedigger (the only good choice) and if they did, whether they are town or scum. We also don't know Chomps Alignment. Chomps is likely not to be NKed as either alignment because of:
1. Angels
2. Scum

So that means that appreantice is effectively useless as a role in this small game because gravedigger will NOT be used again after tomorrow probably just based on our numbers.

On the other hand, spiritualist is useful to check what role someone was when we can't see gravedigger so I do agree that protecting spiritualist at least for today is useful

But if you force everyone except the spiritualist to claim, and if everyone does claim accurately, then you expose the spiritualist. So your massclaim is still a bad idea, isn't it? It effectively means you're hunting for the spiritualist.

I stand corrected, there's merit in not claiming today but I also believe that protecting Spiritualist isn't that useful because they can be scum which can very easily spiral into a loss + we'll know that if they live it's implied that maybe the person who died was town + if they are killed we'll know if they were killed for reads or just role

[Krr1ss]

Idk how to explain it man, I can read the game well with or without spiritualist and I sure af don't trust them. It's as simple as that

[Jamiet99uk]

Idk how to explain it man, I can read the game well with or without spiritualist and I sure af don't trust them. It's as simple as that

Then you can read the game without a massclaim.

[Krr1ss]

Idk how to explain it man, I can read the game well with or without spiritualist and I sure af don't trust them. It's as simple as that

Then you can read the game without a massclaim.

It sure does help tho, and I explained it in a previous post that just the existence of someone being alive or dead can imply someone else's alignment. That can't be done when there's a small POE of who can be spiritualist and we'll never get to learn who that is and if they were murdered for reads or cuz scum figured them out.

But you do you, I don't have a perfect grasp of this gamestate, I just know that it's mechanically perfectly reasonable to massclaim

[Krr1ss]

Idk how to explain it man, I can read the game well with or without spiritualist and I sure af don't trust them. It's as simple as that

Then you can read the game without a massclaim.

It sure does help tho, and I explained it in a previous post that just the existence of someone being alive or dead can imply someone else's alignment. That can't be done when there's a small POE of who can be spiritualist and we'll never get to learn who that is and if they were murdered for reads or cuz scum figured them out.

But you do you, I don't have a perfect grasp of this gamestate, I just know that it's mechanically perfectly reasonable to massclaim

This is assuming Spiritualist dies (or is dead already) which would suck a lot

[Jamiet99uk]

Then you can read the game without a massclaim.

It sure does help tho, and I explained it in a previous post that just the existence of someone being alive or dead can imply someone else's alignment. That can't be done when there's a small POE of who can be spiritualist and we'll never get to learn who that is and if they were murdered for reads or cuz scum figured them out.

But you do you, I don't have a perfect grasp of this gamestate, I just know that it's mechanically perfectly reasonable to massclaim

This is assuming Spiritualist dies (or is dead already) which would suck a lot

If the Spiritualist is alive, and is town, and claims today, they have to use their power today too, pretty much, or they're guaranteed to be NKed.

[Jamiet99uk]

I would like to hear more from Chomps, and Glitterbomb.

[brainbomb]

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Petula helped the maids clean the house, dusting, sweeping up droppings and folding the sheets. She stopped for a moment to stare at the portrait Lord Dumel had made for himself above the mantle. While a portrait of Elder Lady Dumel was leaned against the wall in the corner. “A poor manner to treat ones own mother” she concluded.


DiplomacyandWarfare (3) BunnyGo* GlitterBomb Chomps
BunnyGo (2) Bonatogether DiplomacyandWarfare
miminena (1) yavuzovic

End-votes (1/5): BunnyGo

Unvote (3) Jamiet99uk miminena Krr1ss

Under four hours remained.

Diplomacyandwarfare was scheduled to be burned

[GlitterBomb]

There was like no activity overnight and then I sleep in on Mother’s Day and boom, like twelve pages of posts to catch up on.

Thank you Bunny for calling out the fact that I was the one who originally questioned Chomp’s claim on Will. The fact that it was even called “Dip’s theory” was infuriating to me. When I said it, it got very little interaction until Bunny finally caught up and noticed it. I called it out in a post with Dip, so I find it interesting that he would presumably take credit for my theory that I threw out.

Also over the hashing.

And as far as the low posting - I would make the point that I feel as tho over posting can also be harmful to town or anti-town. It throws a lot of stuff out there, overwhelms players and makes it a lot easier to miss things.

I currently have me,Jamie and Mimi as town. Still stuck on Dip as scum. Bunny still seems suspicious to me but I’m backing off of that’s bit now. Chomps, Krr1ss and Bona are in the middle for me atm. Yavu seems less guilty than I previously thought but still sus.