M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[ButterscotchReader]

I’m gonna throw this out there, and Bunny (or anyone else) please feel free to “hop” in if I’m stating something incorrectly. :) Bunny….hop….it’s funny.

Bunny claimed sniper.

Sniper missed, meaning they incorrectly guessed the role of who they were targeting.

So would it not give town more info to share who the intended target was and why?

I did NOT claim sniper. That was a joke.

Funny joke if it got the sniper to burn their only kill attempt on you.

[miminena]

Why ask your journal instead of the person who did it??? I liked the spunk of the post. It reminded me of the feisty bunny I remembered from previous games. Nothing much to read into…

Because I was worried you were buddying me subtly with upvotes.

But on second glance I suspected the explanation you gave was probably closer to true and was NAI

*** decides not to upvote so it’s not read into….***

actually given this follow up it feels more genuine. idk why abt any of this, just vibes. and my critical thinking (which tends to be much more accurate than my vibe reads) has glitter down as probably town

[ButterscotchReader]

it's a role claim

I said he had a bullet for me if I’d told him my role.

That’s why I didn’t try to play mind games about it.

If I’d lied about a different role I didn’t have, 1) might have started a CC issue but more importantly would have narrowed his target.

I’m guessing he gambled that I was the third mouse.

Mr. Bomb's rule changes for this game are giving me a headache. So you're guessing that a witch sniper wanted to take you out BEFORE the yeet of Will as a mouse?

You can't be serious.

[ButterscotchReader]

The only downside I can think of is if Judge picked a non-Will scum. Pretty unlikely.

I guess we can all but guarantee Judge is town for if Judge were scum ut would have been madness not to tie it.

I maintain it was a mistake/accident, deliberately not voting makes zero sense.

*Assuming that Chomps is on the level about Will's alignment, yes. Which it's really too early to assume.

[miminena]

willing to bet that this means yavu is scum

How does that mean I am scum? Yeah I first voted for Mimi but I didn't show any resistance to revealing the third mouse and vote for him. If I let myself die, Just would get towncred. Or does this also mean 3 blind mice are all three blind witches?

yeah this is an interesting thing that i think pushes against the idea that you and will were trying to get the poison. you were not very hesitant in revealing him once he picked up steam as a wagon and that was a point where you could likely have tried for a different self-pres vote

[miminena]

Another reason Will may have not self pres is if he were being double bussed.

i do wonder if a bus would have been preplanned in a world with chomps and will being paired, since they know they have gravedigger and can claim it and therefore can try to work off bus credit that they wouldn't have had otherwise due to it being flipless.

i do understand i am heavily implicated as scum in this world but it's worth exploring imo

[miminena]

@Bunny where is the tautology?

presumably that in a world where you're town and there's no bussers the people you listed as likely scum are the only people who could be scum so it's a bit redundant

can't speak for bunny though maybe it was something else

[miminena]

@Bunny where is the tautology?

You posited “if”

Once you do that it’s a tautology.

Oh my bad. I’m so sure D&W is scum that I’m assuming that too!

ah, should've read literally the next two posts :p

[BunnyGo]

I’m gonna throw this out there, and Bunny (or anyone else) please feel free to “hop” in if I’m stating something incorrectly. :) Bunny….hop….it’s funny.

Bunny claimed sniper.

Sniper missed, meaning they incorrectly guessed the role of who they were targeting.

So would it not give town more info to share who the intended target was and why?

I did NOT claim sniper. That was a joke.

Funny joke if it got the sniper to burn their only kill attempt on you.

Considering the sniper is pretty bad at mechs to intentionally waste their shot when they had 0 clue what my role is...that's on them being bad at mechs and impatient...

[miminena]

He was posting in the thread with 13 minutes to go, Damo.

Which is why it's strange he didn't vote at all. Why deliberately not vote. He must have got distracted.

Or he froze. Like I say, I think he did it before, and once I'm at a computer and not on my phone I'll try to look it up.

this feels like the most likely explanation imo

will has shown fme to not have much of a self-preservation instinct unless the win is on the line

[yavuzovic]

I will have a very busy weekend and I am going to participate less than usual.

[miminena]

The fact he didn't vote at all leads me to think we should read nothing into no self pres. He was probably distracted and unable to post.

He was posting in the thread with 13 minutes to go, Damo.

THANK YOU! He was actually back about 45 minutes before EOD. I called him out on the no vote, partly to make sure he was aware and partly to see what he'd say when I did. He very clearly knew he needed to vote. He was "catching up" and even told me that him voting late was NAI, but I think not voting at all very much is. SO dismissing it is wild to me.

maybe glitter is a really good scum (or i suck at reading vibes) but once again i really can't see this not coming from town

[miminena]

I am probably dying tonight so questioning my standing won't generate helpful discussion

scum can afford to keep you alive for another day and kill you n2 so they can use their kill to hunt a different pr or make a reads-based kill

Ah yes. But you probably should have waited.

ah, right, oops. hopefully it wouldn't have mattered

[BunnyGo]

I said he had a bullet for me if I’d told him my role.

That’s why I didn’t try to play mind games about it.

If I’d lied about a different role I didn’t have, 1) might have started a CC issue but more importantly would have narrowed his target.

I’m guessing he gambled that I was the third mouse.

Mr. Bomb's rule changes for this game are giving me a headache. So you're guessing that a witch sniper wanted to take you out BEFORE the yeet of Will as a mouse?

You can't be serious.

No:

Bona is almost certainly town.

I have a very high opinion of him as a player. Except he and I usually have trouble aligning as town. I think he does things that are unconsidered (read: bad) with mechs; he finds me condescending.

My low opinion of his ability to think through mechs and implications is part of why we've had trouble aligning; I shot him as an unCC'd PR because I thought his claim was impossibly dumb and couldn't be real.

If you reread his stuff, you can see he was trying to take a shot at me all game, and I didn't want to give him any insight to do it. I was hoping he'd not just gamble on my role...but what can you do?

[BunnyGo]

He was posting in the thread with 13 minutes to go, Damo.

THANK YOU! He was actually back about 45 minutes before EOD. I called him out on the no vote, partly to make sure he was aware and partly to see what he'd say when I did. He very clearly knew he needed to vote. He was "catching up" and even told me that him voting late was NAI, but I think not voting at all very much is. SO dismissing it is wild to me.

maybe glitter is a really good scum (or i suck at reading vibes) but once again i really can't see this not coming from town

She was excellent deep threat the other game.

I'd not underestimate her, but trust your gut...

[damo666]

I think no busser slightly more likely than scumYav. How would you order {Dip, Gb, Jam, But}? Btw that's my order S-> T

D&W >>> But > Gb >> Jam

and put you (damo) tied with Butter

Me? Me? I'm obvtown.

[BunnyGo]

D&W >>> But > Gb >> Jam

and put you (damo) tied with Butter

Me? Me? I'm obvtown.

Yeah...I guess I s*** at scumhunting...

[damo666]

DipButter
DipBomb
DipJam
ButterBomb
ButterJam
JamBomb

They all sound nice.

[BunnyGo]

DipButter
DipBomb
DipJam
ButterBomb
ButterJam
JamBomb

They all sound nice.

I ate JamButter this morning on my toast

[miminena]

Towncore:

BofA
Mimi
Yavu
Bunny
Jamie
Chomps

In there is 2 mice, 1 gravedigger, 1 sniper, and probably a judge

POE:
Glitter
Butter
Diploma
damo


Easy game.

a bit interested on glitter not in town core? i have her noted down as the towniest player atm and i'm curious as to the opposite perspective

She reminds me in tone/posting style/focus/etc etc of her scum game (which I think was her last one).

Nothing I can clearly point to, and maybe it's just who she is.

ok finally got to this

if you have vibes from meta then maybe my first time reads are wrong

i kind of have experience with scum glitter but that was a completely different format so maybe it doesn't count. but in that game she was literally a counter claim to a pr and was pushing less than in this game