M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[damo666]

That's what I was thinking too. It just doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

636

Agree this but it doesn't explain why he failed to vote.

How does it not? I mean only he truly knows, but his only vote that would have done something would have put Yavu at risk and left their fate to a judge. If the judge was scummy or Yavu was innocent, wouldn't he try for the tie?

why wouldn't he try for the tie even if Yav was inno and judge was town?

[damo666]

Yes. Otherwise wouldn’t he vote and chance it that the judge was town and could save him?

So you're claiming:

1) Chomps is town gravedigger -> Just is scum
2) Judge is town
3) yavu is scum
4) yavu decided to out the mice and target the one non-scum mouse?

Based on what happened today, yes those are current scenarios I’m mulling over as very likely in my head.

777

again why can't yav and judge both be town?

[GlitterBomb]

So you're claiming:

1) Chomps is town gravedigger -> Just is scum
2) Judge is town
3) yavu is scum
4) yavu decided to out the mice and target the one non-scum mouse?

Based on what happened today, yes those are current scenarios I’m mulling over as very likely in my head.

777

again why can't yav and judge both be town?

They could be, sure. But in a world where I'm trying to assume that Will's non-vote meant something, I don't think that would be the case.

[damo666]

Based on what happened today, yes those are current scenarios I’m mulling over as very likely in my head.

777

again why can't yav and judge both be town?

They could be, sure. But in a world where I'm trying to assume that Will's non-vote meant something, I don't think that would be the case.

This is my point. I don't think Will's lack of a vote is meaningful. I think we are wasting time and energy.

[GlitterBomb]

777

again why can't yav and judge both be town?

They could be, sure. But in a world where I'm trying to assume that Will's non-vote meant something, I don't think that would be the case.

This is my point. I don't think Will's lack of a vote is meaningful. I think we are wasting time and energy.

An opinion you're entitled to. I disagree. I'm good with moving on for now. What would you like to spend our time and energy on?

[damo666]

They could be, sure. But in a world where I'm trying to assume that Will's non-vote meant something, I don't think that would be the case.

This is my point. I don't think Will's lack of a vote is meaningful. I think we are wasting time and energy.

An opinion you're entitled to. I disagree. I'm good with moving on for now. What would you like to spend our time and energy on?

Ok as an exercise let us suppose that we are both town and there was no bussing day 1 which of {Dip, Butter, Jamie} are the scumpair?

[GlitterBomb]

This is my point. I don't think Will's lack of a vote is meaningful. I think we are wasting time and energy.

An opinion you're entitled to. I disagree. I'm good with moving on for now. What would you like to spend our time and energy on?

Ok as an exercise let us suppose that we are both town and there was no bussing day 1 which of {Dip, Butter, Jamie} are the scumpair?

Of those options, maybe Dip and Butter? But I'm most suspicious of Bunny, Yavu and Chomps at the moment. Tell me more about why you're narrowed down to those three?

[damo666]

An opinion you're entitled to. I disagree. I'm good with moving on for now. What would you like to spend our time and energy on?

Ok as an exercise let us suppose that we are both town and there was no bussing day 1 which of {Dip, Butter, Jamie} are the scumpair?

Of those options, maybe Dip and Butter? But I'm most suspicious of Bunny, Yavu and Chomps at the moment. Tell me more about why you're narrowed down to those three?

I haven't narrowed it down to those 3. It was a thought experiment. Of those 3 I would probably say Dip Jamie but that's quite weak.

[damo666]

Actually I 've had an idea. Maybe there was a busser (or two) on Will and Will was expecting them to switch while the busser(s) were waiting for Will to tie it.

Maybe that's it! Yes, there was at least one busser, possibly two. Now the question is who?

[miminena]

I am probably dying tonight so questioning my standing won't generate helpful discussion

scum can afford to keep you alive for another day and kill you n2 so they can use their kill to hunt a different pr or make a reads-based kill

[miminena]

There's one other possibility: the scum!sniper was on the chopping block? But they would still take a free kill than guessing someone's alignment, right?

unlikely unless you think both me and yavuz were lying for some reason and haven't been called out for it

Yeah. I’m pretty sure I know the sniper and was already town reading them before they missed a shot. I even think I know who they shot at.

yeah it was me and i guessed myself as sniper (i'm mouse so it failed)

(joke btw so to not cause confusion with claims)

[damo666]

I am probably dying tonight so questioning my standing won't generate helpful discussion

scum can afford to keep you alive for another day and kill you n2 so they can use their kill to hunt a different pr or make a reads-based kill

Ah yes. But you probably should have waited.

[miminena]

Towncore:

BofA
Mimi
Yavu
Bunny
Jamie
Chomps

In there is 2 mice, 1 gravedigger, 1 sniper, and probably a judge

POE:
Glitter
Butter
Diploma
damo


Easy game.

a bit interested on glitter not in town core? i have her noted down as the towniest player atm and i'm curious as to the opposite perspective

[miminena]

i plan on hammering bunny tomorrow unless the new pope himself tells me not to

Didn't you hear? The new pope is an American math major: me!

I'm town...I helped you vote Just...and unless Chomps is scum, then Just was...

chomps and will can still be paired (and i do think it's somewhat likely, although not really something i'd push over some other pairings)

[miminena]

Yes. Otherwise wouldn’t he vote and chance it that the judge was town and could save him?

So you're claiming:

1) Chomps is town gravedigger -> Just is scum
2) Judge is town
3) yavu is scum
4) yavu decided to out the mice and target the one non-scum mouse?

Based on what happened today, yes those are current scenarios I’m mulling over as very likely in my head.

it's stuff like this i'm talking about. i haven't considered yet if her worldview is right or not but it does feel like she genuinely believes it

[miminena]

ok i had less time to catch up than i thought :p

i'm on the start of page 40 and i'll finish later

[Jamiet99uk]

willing to bet that this means yavu is scum

The chances of two mice being scum must be fairly low...?

explain to me why town mice would kamikaze into each other

A town mouse does not know the alignment of the other mice, only that they are mice.

[Jamiet99uk]

Was just rereading and the silliness and earnestness of this post! It’s very funny and charming.

...and scummy?

Not to my eyes.

So your theory is town!yav decided to out town!mimi and ended up lucking into exposing scum Will. Yes?

[Jamiet99uk]

The only downside I can think of is if Judge picked a non-Will scum. Pretty unlikely.

I guess we can all but guarantee Judge is town for if Judge were scum ut would have been madness not to tie it.

I maintain it was a mistake/accident, deliberately not voting makes zero sense.

I'm not saying it was deliberate, so much as indicative of panic.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is my point. I don't think Will's lack of a vote is meaningful. I think we are wasting time and energy.

An opinion you're entitled to. I disagree. I'm good with moving on for now. What would you like to spend our time and energy on?

Ok as an exercise let us suppose that we are both town and there was no bussing day 1 which of {Dip, Butter, Jamie} are the scumpair?

I am town.

Why does it have to be D&W and Butters?