M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[yavuzovic]

Everyone vote yavu. By his own admission it's relatively safe.

By my admission I am town. Voting ambiguous mouse is better than voting town mouse. I won't endorse this.

[Jamiet99uk]

Agreed. I don’t get the point with intentionally lying.

But I also don’t feel like a mass claim feels like a good idea right now.

yeah we prob shouldn't mass claim. whether a few roles should individually claim idk, but since they can being either alignment i would assume not, at least not yet

For the record - Mimi and Glitterbob both against Bunny's massclaim idea.

[yavuzovic]

Is revealing one mouse (and hence two) but concealing the third AI?

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(A different hash that stores the both other mice name)

[yavuzovic]

If we don't vote together today, I suggest town!sniper to kill miminena

Mimi is the scummier of the other 2 mice?

After several people just said they town leaned her?

I don't care others opinion. There is no significant difference between my reads between the two. I chose one to reveal.

[Jamiet99uk]

Would you support a massclaim? Then everyone’s roles are out in the open and we can just play mafia and the sniper becomes a vig (which is good if they’re town).

The mice already know each other. And odds are at least one is scum so the whole scum team knows.

If scum is apprentice, they know another that way and can even try to get their choice killed quickly to take the power from town.

If they have a different investigative role, they’ll learn more roles that way.

Never on day 1. Period.

Butters also opposed the mass claim.

So that's Butters, Mimi, Glitterbo against, nobody in particular enthusiastically supporting so far.

[Jamiet99uk]

what time zone are you in?

I am posting from North America in Central Daylight Time.

if you're not british you don't have an excuse for using periods or commas

Are you actually Linda McMahon?

[Jamiet99uk]

i hate mechs talk

this is lame

Is that not the entire point of the game? If not mechs talk, what?

VIBES

[Jamiet99uk]

If they’re lying about the role, the sniper shot fails…

Yes I know. Why does that negate anything I said?

The sniper will never shoot because they think someone is lying about a role

##CALL GM: If the sniper guesses wrong, is their shot still used up?

[Jamiet99uk]

if you're not british you don't have an excuse for using periods or commas

I'm the daughter of a teacher and a librarian. Punctuation is in my blood.

Thus may be the highest female-male ratio in a webdip mafia game ever.

There are girls here?

I cast magic missile!

[yavuzovic]

Sniper - Once per game during any day (before time is up), you may guess the role of a target other than yourself. If correct, the target is killed.

I think it is clear that it is the guessing that happens once, not the kill.

[Jamiet99uk]

Everyone, ##vote mimi with me. I can explain my reasoning but the less information we distribute the better

Not voting without explanation; Mimi seemed somewhat townish up til now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Everyone, ##vote mimi with me. I can explain my reasoning but the less information we distribute the better

People aren't going to blindly follow. You need to at least partially explain.

She's a mouse. Unfortunately NAI. Better than other PR NAI.
Also this isn't that crazy thing, I did this because the other was too risky.

....aaaaand here is a claim.

[Jamiet99uk]

Scumteam is Dip Will Chomps

##vote Dip

Reasonable.

I still have Butter and Glitter in my list of concerns too.

Interesting that Bunny scumreads the people who were against his massclaim idea.

@Bunny are these two issues related?

[Jamiet99uk]

Hebbo?

Hebbo Damo! Nice to see you.

Have you been attending your local chabbernackle lately?

[miminena]

Well…I sadly now think the mice are all town. So this isn’t going great.

The good news is, my D1 reads aren’t awesome. And the gravedigger will learn 2 death alignments if the sniper takes a shot.

yeah i'm just about on the same page

i feel like if yavuz is scum he wouldn't want to out the us as mice, especially since he's calling for an elimination on a mouse but not outing #3, even though he's more widely sussed than i am. solely based on this i think he's likely only scum if paired w/ #3. although the fact that he's pushing a sniper shot on me even though he doesn't seem to have a strong scum read might be a play for the poison but idk

[BunnyGo]

I don't ENTIRELY agree with that as a blanket statement, but yes, in a game where roles give zero alignment information, hiding your role from the wolfpack (t least at the BEGINNING) is more important than usual. Witches will know which roles are village aligned and it allows them to plan optimally, but doesn't clear you to fellow villagers. We can't even accept what you said as factual when you die unless you die at night--which PROBABLY but not DEFINITELY means you a villager or unless a village aligned Gravedigger gets your reveal.

It's a great game build for finding witches by trying to manipulate vs "solve by power and follow the information roles" but the rate at which information gets out is important. There is no angel, for example, until a village player dies. Once we know definitively that has happened, we can play a bit more openly.

Would you support a massclaim? Then everyone’s roles are out in the open and we can just play mafia and the sniper becomes a vig (which is good if they’re town).

The mice already know each other. And odds are at least one is scum so the whole scum team knows.

If scum is apprentice, they know another that way and can even try to get their choice killed quickly to take the power from town.

If they have a different investigative role, they’ll learn more roles that way.

Bunny advocating for a massclaim on D1?

Eep.

Not advocating. Just wondering their opinion

[Jamiet99uk]

Everyone vote yavu. By his own admission it's relatively safe.

By my admission I am town. Voting ambiguous mouse is better than voting town mouse. I won't endorse this.

Why did you pick Mimi?

[miminena]

Hebbo.

It looks like I have some catching up to do.

Are the mice declaring or something? Why would that be happening....

(Starts reading)

They don’t have a chat and it only takes one to decide to.

Yavu named Mimi as the other mouse he found most scummy.

Dano and Butter declared yavu scummier for doing this.

I think both are towny, and that yavu goofed on a reasonable gambit.

hm overall bunny's been relatively towny imo and that outweighs this but this post gives off weird vibes. idk exactly what it is but it feels off

[Jamiet99uk]

If we don't vote together today, I suggest town!sniper to kill miminena

Mimi is the scummier of the other 2 mice?

After several people just said they town leaned her?

I don't care others opinion. There is no significant difference between my reads between the two. I chose one to reveal.

You think both your fellow mice are possible scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Would you support a massclaim? Then everyone’s roles are out in the open and we can just play mafia and the sniper becomes a vig (which is good if they’re town).

The mice already know each other. And odds are at least one is scum so the whole scum team knows.

If scum is apprentice, they know another that way and can even try to get their choice killed quickly to take the power from town.

If they have a different investigative role, they’ll learn more roles that way.

Bunny advocating for a massclaim on D1?

Eep.

Not advocating. Just wondering their opinion

Well, you were the one that brought it up. So even if you're not pushing it, you raised the possibility, which nobody else was talking about.