Mafia XXXIV Game Thread - Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

[Tom Bombadil]

DILLY DILLY BORK BORK

Ok. I'm done.

[Foxcastle]

You are only 276 posts away from overtaking Brainbomb's lead, Tom.

[Tom Bombadil]

What do you think of tham Fox? What do you think about what I just pointed out regarding his D2 vote? Am I the only one who thinks this looks super fishy?

[Tom Bombadil]

what a tease. I'm all alone in here. I check the bottom to see who's online and can talk the game with me. It's just me and brain.

[rdrivera2005]

I will not let you alone Tom.
##vote Thamrick

Back to caipirinhas

[thamrick]

Why is his EOD1 vote clearing?

Reedeer had flexibility in his reads to be on either wagon. Still, he cast the deciding vote on Jamiet very near the wire. I do not believe Scum Reedeer would have voted that way. You can't tell this using the bot. You have to go back and read the EOD.

I never understand this sentiment. It has nothing to do with what role he drew.

Why can't you understand? I don't know what role he drew. The expected value of shooting Meme is:

= BK * PS - CK * (1-PS)

BK equals Benefit of Kill
CK equals Cost of Kill
PS equals Probability Scum

I consider "CK" to be pretty high.

How was reedeer's vote the deciding vote on Jamiet? It put the vote at 6 ND, 5 Jamiet.

Tf is that formula?

[Tom Bombadil]

tham - who are your top three scumreads?

[thamrick]

Calling it now. There's scum on my wagon 100%. Not sure which, but Tom/rdrivera is scum. I lean rdr. He didn't want to vote me first until someone else led the charge. #SorryButOMGUS

Choo choo. All other scum jump on plz. As the great Ezio said "ez game. ez life"

So, for the record Tom, you don't believe my rb claim either?

[thamrick]

1) MLQ
2) Bo
3) Yav

[Tom Bombadil]

I haven't sorted out the rb issue, but you could have been the nurse save. So I don't see why a rb would clear you. Let alone the possibility scum didn't rb as they didn't want to be watched.

[thamrick]

Also, why have I seen darg browsing the forum WAYYYYYYYY more than I've seen meme?

#MissYouDarg

[Tom Bombadil]

In fact, the whole exercise of saying if you got rb'd isn't particularily helpful in this setup. It basically just tells scumteam who nurse targeted and thus who is available to nk the next night.

[thamrick]

I haven't sorted out the rb issue, but you could have been the nurse save. So I don't see why a rb would clear you. Let alone the possibility scum didn't rb as they didn't want to be watched.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked RHK and rdr. Assume that I was rb'd. Make a case that the nurse rb'd me. Make a case that scum rb'd me.

@Maniac - sorry I distracted you last night with the RHK tirade and subsequent rdr bet. TL;DR - rdrivera is scum.

[Tom Bombadil]

The case nurse rb'd you - they thought scum would shoot away from maniac, me for fear of being watched. Scum would hope to hill watcher. So nurse picks someone they think could be watcher or pr.

The case mafia rb'd you - they thought watcher would be on maniac or myself. So they decided to shoot brain and rb'd a rando hoping it was a role. Or in another scenario, they don't rb for fear of being watched and let you claim rb. We planned to do this in my game as scum.

[Foxcastle]

@Tom, eh, I disagree with a lot of Thamrick's conclusions, but I don't see actual malice of thought in there.

What's the case on RHK Maniac?

I REALLY don't like the claim. Like REALLY, REALLY don't like it. But I had been pretty firmly townreading RHK before that.

The claim makes me fine with shooting RHK though. If he actually is PR, it's piss poor town play to give it up so easily without attempting to mount a defense for himself.

Hey, Thamrick, did you ever get a case on RHK? Because, uh, you know I've got one.

[thamrick]

In fact, the whole exercise of saying if you got rb'd isn't particularily helpful in this setup. It basically just tells scumteam who nurse targeted and thus who is available to nk the next night.

I'm confident I was scum rb'd. I have no effing clue why, but seriously. If the nurse rb'd me last night, wtf were they thinking? I was and am on the lynch block today. No chance in hell scum were NK'ing me. I haven't breadcrumbed PR cause I'm not one so I don't see why nurse would save me or scum would rb me.

If you're nurse, you save the townclear, or the claimants at the end if you're online, or you gamble on someone you think scum would kill. Why would scum kill me?

Nurse rb'ing me last night would've been an even worse play than town-RHK claiming Watcher so I'll buy the whole game pizza's if it's true.

[reedeer1]

I'm shooting one of the following half way through the day:

Bo-Sox, Yavuz, Captmeme, reedeer

I'd like everyone's opinion.

If any of you are PRs, I guess that's unlucky. Do not claim yet.

I'll give notice of who I'm shooting 1hr before the shot. You can then claim or make a case for not being shot.

Regards
Town Jesus

I can't wait to find out who the gunslinger is. Must be an American, who else would allow a maniac to have a gun.

I would say that for me, Yavuz is top, because : lst game he was town, and yet he gave off scummy vibes for me, Now he also gives off scummy vibes, but this time they are a diffrn't kind of scummy vibe, so I think these might be the real things. After him, I would shoot Captmeme, because even though he is known for his lurking, and shooting a lurker just because they lurk is a bad thing, his predecessor was somewhat scummy. Then I would shoot bo, because I have a towny gut feeling for him (Not too strong a feel). After that I would shoot me, because I am town, so that would be a bad shot.

[Tom Bombadil]

Eh This is tiring. Someone else pressure.

Imma go back to the person I'm 99% sure is scum.

##vote MeanLaQueefa

[thamrick]

I understand your suspicion. I get that I could be scum fake claiming rb. I just KNOW I was rb'd. I'd be bold scum for doing this. Look at my playstyle and ask if you think I'd be bold scum. You can believe that if you want. Just ask yourself which is more likely. Follow your heart and be ready to die for it when I flip town.

You're willing to give RHK a pass for potentially fake claiming Watcher under duress but you're ready to lynch me for claiming rb... You know that I'll eventually die for this whether I'm townclear or whether I'm faking. Why lynch me now?

It's 13-3 right now. What's the best case scenario for me fake-claiming here Tom? No townie in their right mind is gonna let me survive til end of game if I'm not eventually NK'd.

[thamrick]

I'm shooting one of the following half way through the day:

Bo-Sox, Yavuz, Captmeme, reedeer

I'd like everyone's opinion.

If any of you are PRs, I guess that's unlucky. Do not claim yet.

I'll give notice of who I'm shooting 1hr before the shot. You can then claim or make a case for not being shot.

Regards
Town Jesus

I can't wait to find out who the gunslinger is. Must be an American, who else would allow a maniac to have a gun.

I would say that for me, Yavuz is top, because : lst game he was town, and yet he gave off scummy vibes for me, Now he also gives off scummy vibes, but this time they are a diffrn't kind of scummy vibe, so I think these might be the real things. After him, I would shoot Captmeme, because even though he is known for his lurking, and shooting a lurker just because they lurk is a bad thing, his predecessor was somewhat scummy. Then I would shoot bo, because I have a towny gut feeling for him (Not too strong a feel). After that I would shoot me, because I am town, so that would be a bad shot.

This was cringe-worthy.

Hope you're feeling better reedeer.