Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[ghug]

We were going to potentially switch to Flash. He didn't move. No-one but Worcej moved. What do you think about that. Why wouldn't he move to damo as scum?

Reading back, Squigs didn't look all that interested in switching, and as you said, it was a low-activity EoD. The two of you coordinating a switch would have given flash plenty of time to react. As it was, he was playing the whole "I don't care, you guys should lynch me" card, which is more compelling if one doesn't vote in self-defense.

What are you smoking? On D6, I was the lead wagon from 1:11 to 0:11 to go in the day. I didn't move at all during that time. You are assuming I somehow **knew** that I would be saved?

On D4, I was the top wagon multiple times over the day...only two minutes from the end I was equal with Ike. I made absolutely no attempt to save myself (like jump onto the Ike wagon for "self preservation"). What was my scum motivation to do that?

Lots of theories were put out about that I was somehow trying to save someone, mostly Damo, and they have all turned out to be false. Why can't you even entertain the bleeding obvious...that I actually didn't care?

Eleven minutes is a long time. Voting takes about two seconds.

I don't think not caring fits as either alignment, and it's fairly evident that you do care, which tells me that you were faking it.

[flash2015]

Reading back, Squigs didn't look all that interested in switching, and as you said, it was a low-activity EoD. The two of you coordinating a switch would have given flash plenty of time to react. As it was, he was playing the whole "I don't care, you guys should lynch me" card, which is more compelling if one doesn't vote in self-defense.

What are you smoking? On D6, I was the lead wagon from 1:11 to 0:11 to go in the day. I didn't move at all during that time. You are assuming I somehow **knew** that I would be saved?

On D4, I was the top wagon multiple times over the day...only two minutes from the end I was equal with Ike. I made absolutely no attempt to save myself (like jump onto the Ike wagon for "self preservation"). What was my scum motivation to do that?

Lots of theories were put out about that I was somehow trying to save someone, mostly Damo, and they have all turned out to be false. Why can't you even entertain the bleeding obvious...that I actually didn't care?

Eleven minutes is a long time. Voting takes about two seconds.

I don't think not caring fits as either alignment, and it's fairly evident that you do care, which tells me that you were faking it.

There is definitely a town motivation for me to start caring today - that my mislynch today will lose the game for town. In previous days it would not.

What convoluted scum motivation would I have for starting to care today?

[flash2015]

You are either blindly seeing what you want to see...or you are scum. Which is it?

[ghug]

What are you smoking? On D6, I was the lead wagon from 1:11 to 0:11 to go in the day. I didn't move at all during that time. You are assuming I somehow **knew** that I would be saved?

On D4, I was the top wagon multiple times over the day...only two minutes from the end I was equal with Ike. I made absolutely no attempt to save myself (like jump onto the Ike wagon for "self preservation"). What was my scum motivation to do that?

Lots of theories were put out about that I was somehow trying to save someone, mostly Damo, and they have all turned out to be false. Why can't you even entertain the bleeding obvious...that I actually didn't care?

Eleven minutes is a long time. Voting takes about two seconds.

I don't think not caring fits as either alignment, and it's fairly evident that you do care, which tells me that you were faking it.

There is definitely a town motivation for me to start caring today - that my mislynch today will lose the game for town. In previous days it would not.

What convoluted scum motivation would I have for starting to care today?

Town cares to not be lynched the whole game. We weren't in a good position yesterday. I believe you're smarter than thinking your death didn't matter until LYLO. I think that the not caring act was running dry, and with Squigs dying, I was your only remaining vocal detractor, so you switched to making (very shitty) attempts to discredit me

You're not the lead wagon right now, and I'm not getting lynched today because I'm probably going to die tonight. Why are you so singularly focused on me?

[Durga]

It honestly feels like you're more focused on him than him on you ghug

[ghug]

You are either blindly seeing what you want to see...or you are scum. Which is it?

This is the scummiest shit. You've been saying it for about a day. You've clearly reached a conclusion. You're offering to change your conclusion if I do what you want, because your goal is to secure an ally in lynching town whether it's me or not.

[ghug]

It honestly feels like you're more focused on him than him on you ghug

He's my top scumread. I am focused on him. I'm also talking about other people.

He, on the other hand, isn't trying to get me lynched. He's just talking about me and not much else.

[Durga]

It honestly feels like you're more focused on him than him on you ghug

He's my top scumread. I am focused on him. I'm also talking about other people.

He, on the other hand, isn't trying to get me lynched. He's just talking about me and not much else.

Why would he try to get you lynched when you have the box? If he tried you'd just yell at him for being scummy for trying when you have the box. What are you

[Durga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV3_UHG73oQ

[ghug]

It honestly feels like you're more focused on him than him on you ghug

He's my top scumread. I am focused on him. I'm also talking about other people.

He, on the other hand, isn't trying to get me lynched. He's just talking about me and not much else.

Why would he try to get you lynched when you have the box? If he tried you'd just yell at him for being scummy for trying when you have the box. What are you

I'm not suggesting he try to get me lynched. I'm suggesting discussing me to the detriment of discussing the lynch at hand is scummy. He knows I'm going to flip town. He wants to either convince me he's town or convince the rest of you that I'm crazy before I do .

[Durga]

He's my top scumread. I am focused on him. I'm also talking about other people.

He, on the other hand, isn't trying to get me lynched. He's just talking about me and not much else.

Why would he try to get you lynched when you have the box? If he tried you'd just yell at him for being scummy for trying when you have the box. What are you

I'm not suggesting he try to get me lynched. I'm suggesting discussing me to the detriment of discussing the lynch at hand is scummy. He knows I'm going to flip town. He wants to either convince me he's town or convince the rest of you that I'm crazy before I do .

Ok, even if he's scum - we still have to find two more people. So please help me, while we're still alive to do that.

[flash2015]

It honestly feels like you're more focused on him than him on you ghug

He's my top scumread. I am focused on him. I'm also talking about other people.

He, on the other hand, isn't trying to get me lynched. He's just talking about me and not much else.

I have been talking to multiple people. Have you not been paying attention??

I can't get you lynched today. That is obvious. What I am trying to do is confirm if you are town or not. If you are town, then I think we have our scum team (bozo, rdr, ND). If you are scum, then I am wrong on one of them...and I don't know which one yet.

[flash2015]

Sigh, so what's the case against me? I'll try to defend myself. I don't want us to lose. But, it looks like we will probably lose.

I am voting for you because you are in my PoE pool...and because I believe your reads are completely wrong (ghug is looking scummier the more this goes on though). I don't see how Durga is really that different from last game.

It could be that I am reading this all wrong though so let's look at this from another direction - who are the people you can confidently clear, the people you would not vote for today, unless something dramatic happens because they are confirmed town to you (not because of the box)? worcej? bo? Anyone else?

[flash2015]

Say something, rdr, I know you are there.

[flash2015]

Latest reads summary. Let me know if I have represented anyone:

ND - Durga, Flash, ghug
worcej - rdr, ND and bo
Durga - ND, bozo, ghug
Flash - ND, ghug, bozo or rdr (One is town)
bozo - ND (last read), Flash, ghug (from older reads)
ghug - >>>>>>FLASH<<<<<<<, ND, bozo (I wonder if I can make FLASH flash?)
rdr - Durga, Flash, Ghug
bo_sox - Flash, rdr, ghug

[flash2015]

worcej, are you around? What do you think now about bo_sox and the box?

[Durga]

I don't know who the scum team is. Don't put those words on my grave

[flash2015]

Where are you bo?

[flash2015]

I don't know who the scum team is. Don't put those words on my grave

Who are you least sure of there?

[flash2015]

Do you think rdr is just misguided?