Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[worcej]

ghug, bunny, worcej (anyone else really), I need your help here.

What does it mean to you when Mafia RB someone other than the NK?

As I previously said:

While the jailor was alive, it didn’t clear people.

Also while town had solid PRs, it was a good shot.

@worcej you see anything from ghug/jamie that indicates they might have fake crumbed PR?

I'll be 100% transparent - I'm good at catching PRs as scum. I don't identify PRs well when I am town because I'm looking for scum and not the PRs.

[worcej]

The most likely solution is that Jaime and ghug were RB'ed - one by the scum team and another by BB.

If I had to make a gut read right now, I believe BB jailed Jaime. But that's entirely rooted in meta opinion.

None of this clears one or the other though - so it's not really a big deal to me and my read of them both (null fwiw) does not move.

[bozotheclown]

I don't think Brain was obviously a PR in any fashion from my read of his analysis.

I wonder if the intent of killing him was to lock his reads in to cause us to wander on re-read of him

Vecna said you might have been bussing Just. What about the Bonatogether/Just interaction made you think Bonatogether was town but not Just?

[BunnyGo]

THANKS KING!!! Thanks for answering me....KINGOFTHEPIRATES!

can't tell if this is sarcasm, my sarcasm sensors have been dulled by my math teacher (bona will know, I think?). I did answer above though :).

I was nudging sweet for answering a question I asked directly to you. This interrupting us.

[BunnyGo]

Why are you voting for a new player now then?

##vote bozo.

Town bozo is smarter than all this.

Than all of what?

Your questions imply you’re not thinking, and not trying to understand, just asking to ask.

Ghug says he doesn’t want to vote a new player during D1. You quote it to ask why he’s voting one now. You’re better than this.

[BunnyGo]

@Jamie this post (esp about Will) is one reason sweet ain't scum

I still think it possible that sweetandcool was bussing all 3 of his teammates in that post.

Bozo is doing the thing he does as scum where he focuses on the possible instead of the probable.

Yeah. Let’s kill him.

[worcej]

I don't think Brain was obviously a PR in any fashion from my read of his analysis.

I wonder if the intent of killing him was to lock his reads in to cause us to wander on re-read of him

Vecna said you might have been bussing Just. What about the Bonatogether/Just interaction made you think Bonatogether was town but not Just?

Calling him out on his lack of substance posting. Quite frankly I agreed with that assessment and felt Will was just spewing. If Bona did bus there, it would be a historic bus to do so early, because D1 bussing doesn't clear one for the whole game.

[worcej]

In regard to Vecna's opinion of me bussing on D1 - I was as clear as I could be with limited time and catching up.

I do not argue against a conclusion that I was possibly bussing, I stated as much in my N1/D2 wall post.

[worcej]

But I will also tell you, that if I was scum, I had an easier out on pushing damo and tying the vote to 5-5 between Just and damo and I would've gone that way.

The only scenario where I wouldn't have is if I was scum with damo and just together - I would bus will 100% because I know I can make endgame with damo and win - I believe we've done it twice now?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Just read back through foodcoats. I was hoping to find some kind of crumb that he was beekeeper and gave the bees to Damo, but there is nothing at all to that effect. He even scumread Damo. It is really quite surprising to me that he would have given the bees at all to Damo.

One thought...maybe Damo is not the one who flung a bunch of bees at foodcoats. Maybe Damo took the blame for it because a teammate of his who is under more cover did it.

That is a dumb thought. The person with the bees wouldn't have known they had them until start of day, so Damo wouldn't have known that a teammate had them.

Yeah, I don't see any way that Damo knew foodcoats was a PR. I can find no smoking g...er honeyed hand.

Absent that, it's actually a pretty Towny thing to fling the bees at foodcoats. He was not widely townread. I feel like scum would fling the bees at someone who was a bit less likely to be a mischop. Maybe someone who voted JustWill on Day 1...

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozo.

Town bozo is smarter than all this.

Than all of what?

Your questions imply you’re not thinking, and not trying to understand, just asking to ask.

Ghug says he doesn’t want to vote a new player during D1. You quote it to ask why he’s voting one now. You’re better than this.

##VOTE bona

I just want a tie man.

I have no reads.

##VOTE damo

Would also entertain Bunny for the sake of paradox.

Why did you choose Bonatogether and damo to vote for over Spartaculous during this sequence?

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Where in this does he say he does like voting for new players exclusively "during D1"?

[sweetandcool]

Than all of what?

Your questions imply you’re not thinking, and not trying to understand, just asking to ask.

Ghug says he doesn’t want to vote a new player during D1. You quote it to ask why he’s voting one now. You’re better than this.

Why did you choose Bonatogether and damo to vote for over Spartaculous during this sequence?

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Where in this does he say he does like voting for new players exclusively "during D1"?

Could you just drop it?

For most of us it was clear what he meant. For those that it was not, he has explained. You are accomplishing nothing by pursuing this except being annoying.

[Lord of Words]

When is end of day?

Currently writing up scum/town reads now.

22 and a bit hours

Thanks for the heads up.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie - I dunno, keep going back and forth, await more data, not fond of the way the RB claim was made

I was rolewblocked.

Before I could consider whether to claim, I saw Ghug claim roleblock.

I decided I should claim too.

You "do not like" the way I revealed the RB.

Please, tell me, how would you have done it??
How did my style of reveal cause you displeasure???

[sweetandcool]

Jamie - I dunno, keep going back and forth, await more data, not fond of the way the RB claim was made

I was rolewblocked.

Before I could consider whether to claim, I saw Ghug claim roleblock.

I decided I should claim too.

You "do not like" the way I revealed the RB.

Please, tell me, how would you have done it??
How did my style of reveal cause you displeasure???

Jamiet, it's possible I've just missed it, but what are your feelings on the gamestate other than LoW being scum?

Who is your towncore, who is your scums and how do you feel about Will's treatment of you D1?

[Jamiet99uk]

When is end of day?

Currently writing up scum/town reads now.

This is a fairly good town slip also.

No it is fucking not.

[BunnyGo]

Than all of what?

Your questions imply you’re not thinking, and not trying to understand, just asking to ask.

Ghug says he doesn’t want to vote a new player during D1. You quote it to ask why he’s voting one now. You’re better than this.

Why did you choose Bonatogether and damo to vote for over Spartaculous during this sequence?

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Where in this does he say he does like voting for new players exclusively "during D1"?

It was DAY ONE!! He was discussing the voting at END OF DAY.

Please explain to me how ghug, a player of moderate but not no skill, would. Never vote a new player. How does your computer not compute the context and intent of this statement?

Please explain what you thought he meant at the time and whether you believed he’d never vote for a new player at KiLo. And why you believed that was his intent.

[BunnyGo]

When is end of day?

Currently writing up scum/town reads now.

This is a fairly good town slip also.

No it is fucking not.

Is town!bozo usually this useless?


@bozo: has there been some irl changes for you?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie - I dunno, keep going back and forth, await more data, not fond of the way the RB claim was made

I was rolewblocked.

Before I could consider whether to claim, I saw Ghug claim roleblock.

I decided I should claim too.

You "do not like" the way I revealed the RB.

Please, tell me, how would you have done it??
How did my style of reveal cause you displeasure???

Jamiet, it's possible I've just missed it, but what are your feelings on the gamestate other than LoW being scum?

Who is your towncore, who is your scums and how do you feel about Will's treatment of you D1?

I also scumread Damo, I have not stopped scumreading you.

I townread Bona, Ghug, and proabably Balki.

[Jamiet99uk]

When is end of day?

Currently writing up scum/town reads now.

Yet another anchor post!

Please kill this guy!

He has done nothing.
He will do nothing.
He is pretending to play without actually playing.

I am not going to move my vote. This guy needs to die.
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