M1028: The Sweet Food Consensus - Game Thread

[damo666]

Next phase is 3-2 unless we get lucky.

I think damo is scum by pushing so heavily into me after successfully getting rdr killed.

I am clear unless there's a cc from your partner (I assume you'll leave it to them).

[damo666]

My order of paring from most likely downwards

bra wor
bra kak
wor kak
bra d&w
wor d&w
kak d&w

On a reread I've eliminated the pairings in red.

This indicates worcej MUST BE SCUM.

I think it's

wor bra > wor kak >>>>>>> wor dip

We must kill worcej tomorrow.

Any body who doesn't vote worcej tomorrow should be suspected. That is, I am forcing worcej partner to bus.

With regard to the night votes, as scum now know both PRs, they can mess with my scan and redirect Will's save, so we are pretty useless. However, don't forget it's compulsory even though it's useless.

Presumably the next two night kills will be me and Will so assuming worcej is tomorrow's kill we will be going into D4 with bra, dip & kak. I think a lot of weight will be on your shoulders to make the right choice dip!

? What do you meant they know both PR’s?

They know you're doc and I'm cop. I don't understand why you ask.

[damo666]

My order of paring from most likely downwards

bra wor
bra kak
wor kak
bra d&w
wor d&w
kak d&w

On a reread I've eliminated the pairings in red.

This indicates worcej MUST BE SCUM.

I think it's

wor bra > wor kak >>>>>>> wor dip

We must kill worcej tomorrow.

Any body who doesn't vote worcej tomorrow should be suspected. That is, I am forcing worcej partner to bus.

With regard to the night votes, as scum now know both PRs, they can mess with my scan and redirect Will's save, so we are pretty useless. However, don't forget it's compulsory even though it's useless.

Presumably the next two night kills will be me and Will so assuming worcej is tomorrow's kill we will be going into D4 with bra, dip & kak. I think a lot of weight will be on your shoulders to make the right choice dip!

I also want to understand the basis of singling me out. It’s disgustingly opportunistic.

But I am fairly certain we won’t get an explanation from damo here because there really isn’t one.

It doesn't single you out. It just so happens you feature in all the remaining pairs hence you are scum (or I've eliminated a scumpair).

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

Is there any way we can speed up the night? Some sort of nighthammer mechanic, or... anything? I'm getting a bit bored listening to worcej go insane.

[damo666]

I’ll say I have submitted a cop scan and objectively believe a cop scan is far superior than a doctor save here

You can't.

[damo666]

It’s 4-2 currently with an un’cced doctor claim.

By going with a cop scan, this forces scum to have to potentially kill outside of will and keeps a un’cced PR going into the next phase.

If scum miss the cop, the cop can claim with a scan and it becomes far more likely to kill scum and town wins.

Damo ignoring this logic and pushing for a doctor save 100% scums him for me.

I've already hardclaimed cop lol.

You are floundering bigtime.

[damo666]

The doctor action is also the least efficient option for the remaining town.

We have to submit a save in the group of 6 players and it could most likely be targeting a scum player.

The cop scan action is best because each town player has a pool of 4 (in case of will 5) because you don’t need to submit a scan of will or yourself, as you know those alignments. This makes it so the cop could theoretically have a 50% shot of hitting scum.

Also, again, it puts urgency on the scum to find the cop in the group of 3 potential targets. Any cop scan results would devastatingly swing the likelihood of a win in town’s favor.

Again, Damo should already know all of this and pushing for a doctor save is the best interest of scum. He is scum. QED mofo’s.

worcej pretending he's not keeping up

[damo666]

Let’s entertain the fact that damo is cop and the scum correctly got lucky that the cop scan fired off on rdr, thus was inverted.

This would finger one of kak or BB immediately to me because they are the only ones would know that rdr is commonly selected for PR actions. I didn’t read the setup closely, but I am fairly confident that scum cannot influence the PR actions and only town players can. Of the two, I believe BB to be the better candidate of scumness.

FWIW, N1 I submitted a cop scan vote for BB as target. D&W claims a scan too, but not rdr. Ghug could’ve done scan on rdr - it would make sense.

FAYK BS

[damo666]

"Clears"
Will
damo

"Unknowns"
BB
D&W - N1 Cop scan himself
Kak
worcej - N1 Cop scan BB

It's unlikely rdr voted for a cop scan of himself on N1.

I voted to scan rdr and my vote effectively counts as 1.5 votes

[damo666]

Is there any way we can speed up the night? Some sort of nighthammer mechanic, or... anything? I'm getting a bit bored listening to worcej go insane.

Unanimous DMs to GMs

[brainbomb]

Whats gonna be hilarious is damo is gonna die and then all these players are going to claim damo had me as his top scum and that I should go first

[damo666]

If worcej were town he would argue I made a mistake in my eliminations, he wouldn't attack an uncc'd cop claimant. He is clearly caught scum.

It is also apparent dip is not his partner (or has dropped him like a hot potato).

[damo666]

Whats gonna be hilarious is damo is gonna die and then all these players are going to claim damo had me as his top scum and that I should go first

I actually think it's worcej kak

You are second to Kak

[damo666]

Is there any way we can speed up the night? Some sort of nighthammer mechanic, or... anything? I'm getting a bit bored listening to worcej go insane.

Unanimous DMs to GMs

I'm willing to hammer the night.

I will DM GMs accordingly.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

At this point no one has counter claimed my doc status. If anyone were to do so now or later, it is extremely obvious that they are the mafia and were trying to set something up.

The real doc would’ve sacrificed themself to get me killed.

If they cc at KiLo, then it is obvious they are mafia.

So atm I am the only true clear, because its possible damo could be lying.

If I were lying the real cop could cc.

Why wouldnt they wait until after the NK tho lol

Theres always a slim chance

[damo666]

At this point no one has counter claimed my doc status. If anyone were to do so now or later, it is extremely obvious that they are the mafia and were trying to set something up.

The real doc would’ve sacrificed themself to get me killed.

If they cc at KiLo, then it is obvious they are mafia.

So atm I am the only true clear, because its possible damo could be lying.

If I were lying the real cop could cc.

Why wouldnt they wait until after the NK tho lol

Theres always a slim chance

Well yeah EON.

Bring it on.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If I were lying the real cop could cc.

Why wouldnt they wait until after the NK tho lol

Theres always a slim chance

Well yeah EON.

Bring it on.

Yes, ok, go on then

[Kakarroto]

well, I guess this is true. Would still have wanted to hear from worcej. Maybe it is just that easy? RD isn't likely to answer soon, but I'm still contemplating of waiting. Hmm.

And I guess I should really find a solution towards mafreading or at least suspecting PR's on D1. Please don't tell me that d&w is actually doc now and I'm just that bad

also, I guess the decision was made for me there. Welp, lets hold I guess.

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maybe I shouldn't try to do three things at once. But I guess we always would've voted RD here, even if I posted sooner. The one positive thing is that we removed someone from the PoE, so I hope we can go on from there. Well, I guess, two, if there is no counterclaim.

What would you have wanted to hear from me?

why go for ghug and leave will alive? Your opinion on what happened with damo and if we should hammer it? Does it look like cop damo or maf damo posing as cop? Stuff like that.

Well, we hammered already, so I guess that was answered. And it seems you don't believe damo. So, your thoughts on why mafia did remove ghug and let will alive?

Also I'm not mafia I feel like even if we get one tomorrow, with this setting we will lose the final three by everyone just voting me out. I don't want this to lose for town, I was against voting jamie, and I was against rushing but trying to get more info, and now damo just says I'm likely mafia. I was ignored and misrepresented by d&w, and brain just thinks I'm mafia like jamie and ghug. So whatever happens, in the longterm, I feel like we will lose this. Can we please try to reassess the game and think more and rush less? Because if not, I fear we can just give up now or just end hammer everything, throw a coin or something.

[damo666]

@kak who do you think are the two scum?

[worcej]

Next phase is 3-2 unless we get lucky.

I think damo is scum by pushing so heavily into me after successfully getting rdr killed.

I am clear unless there's a cc from your partner (I assume you'll leave it to them).

I’m going to remind you of this post when the game ends because you killed me.