"Really? You posit the idea of moral absolutes, and go straight to Judeo-Christian teachings"Wusti wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:14 amFlash - I like your way of thinking, and vastly higher tolerance bar than mine. I think you are on the right track. Keep up the good fight!
As to BrianBaru's comments:
"I will posit the idea that there are moral absolutes. These absolutes do not limit our choices because we have free will, and we can do what we want. But we can apply a fairly simple standard to know if what we do is moral.
God’s first command to Adam was “Go forth and multiply.” God’s first command to Noah after the flood was “Go forth and multiply.” Even if you don’t believe in God or the Bible, survival of the species is a priority. The purpose of a code of morality is to ensure that we humans survive as a species. And then, to test if something is inherently moral, ie, helps us survive as a species, we ask “If everyone did this, would the species survive?”"
Really? You posit the idea of moral absolutes, and go straight to Judeo-Christian teachings - even to the point of homophobia - which apparently is a moral absolute because the Old Testament says so, and might endanger survival of the species.
He then goes on to call THATCHER of all people morally just because she was anti-socialist, so a decent sprinkling of neo-classical economic theory thrown in.
Some very mild criticism ensues, followed by justification and a failure to apply his own standards of proof and argument from CF.
Nauseating indeed.
You are missing the point. I am suggesting what you call the Judeo-Christian teachings could be the result of a Natural Law. It codifies those things that should be avoided because they could lead to the destruction of humanity, if all partake.
All Life is designed to survive and reproduce. I referenced Scripture, yes, because those were the first commands from God, just to show the importance of reproduction. Even without God, survival and reproduction is the prime directive. Humans may have received this directive from God, or figured it out on their own. This is an absolute of life. Morality are those rules which keeps humanity alive. I suggest that we test if something is indeed an absolute by asking, “If everyone did it, do we survive?”
I referenced Thatcher in reference to stealing. Government stealing is the worst kind, because you can’t defend against it. The Beatles wrote about this in Taxman. You can submit, or leave.