M1027: Community - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Should we hammer the day, or is there plenty more to discuss?

I think it's probably worth trying to reach a conclusion on the night vote in the next few hours so we can save a day and not totally kill momentum. I may try to do a little more solving if given the time, but realistically my energy wanes when I know I'm about to be killed.

I feel strongly that you should be the VT night "guess" vote.

[ghug]

Should we hammer the day, or is there plenty more to discuss?

I think it's probably worth trying to reach a conclusion on the night vote in the next few hours so we can save a day and not totally kill momentum. I may try to do a little more solving if given the time, but realistically my energy wanes when I know I'm about to be killed.

I am almost the opposite. My give a fucks go down when it is down to a coin flip and I would rather move on and begin to process new information.

That's not really the opposite. I'm saying I'm also unlikely to do anything with the extra day.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Should we hammer the day, or is there plenty more to discuss?

I think it's probably worth trying to reach a conclusion on the night vote in the next few hours so we can save a day and not totally kill momentum. I may try to do a little more solving if given the time, but realistically my energy wanes when I know I'm about to be killed.

I feel strongly that you should be the VT night "guess" vote.

I second this. I have been a proponent of getting one guarantee rather than 2 ambiguous

[ghug]

We couldn't have done this D1 / N1, as I have explained.

Monarch proposed a mechanically sound plan to do so, which we discussed at length.

Then I think we're talking about two different things.

Different means to the same end. We had a path to reliably scanning a single player N1 and we elected not to use it because many of us believed the parity plan to provide more value. I don't think that's changed.

[ghug]

N1 was a confirmed scan. It got us a townclear who died the next night.
N2 was a parity scan. It got us a scum and a townclear who will die the next night.

More generally, you're twice as likely to hit scum with a parity scan, and if you do, it's much more than half as good as hitting scum with a confirmed scan. On top of that, if you do target two town or two scum, it's information that needs to be parsed rather than information that can be used immediately, but that also means scum can't immediately render it useless by killing the clear.

[Chaqa]

I agree with Jamie that ghug is the logical guess.

I think hammering today makes sense as well.

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[Jamiet99uk]

Note that Ghug would still be the VT guess if we keep with the approach of VT guessing the second largest wagon, since he is currently the second largest wagon.

[BK3K]

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[Jamiet99uk]

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[ghug]

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Needs one more.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

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Still want ghug to be the vote for the investigation

[sweetandcool]

I apologize, I've mistakenly thought that I retracted my statement N1 where I hinted that I had a strong reason for scumreading Heart.

Why did you think there was a strong reason for scumreading Heart, and what changed your mind?

Or are you saying the whole thing was just a reaction test to see how Heart responded to you?

Well, posting it was meant as a reaction test.

I actually forget what my logic was, but I missed his 2nd post of N1, which changed things for some reason.

[sweetandcool]

Jeez, we're ending? I guess I'll have to think quick about my night vote.

[sweetandcool]

So if we end now we are supposed to target BK3K?

I am okay with that.

[Jamiet99uk]

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Still want ghug to be the vote for the investigation

That's 6/11 - we should HOLD.

[Jamiet99uk]

So if we end now we are supposed to target BK3K?

I am okay with that.

What?

No, Ghug. Target Ghug.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So if we end now we are supposed to target BK3K?

I am okay with that.

What?

No, Ghug. Target Ghug.

@BK3K
@sweetandcool
This is sweet, knowing he will probably be investigated next night, trying to spread doubt.

[ghug]

We need six end votes on one target, to be clear, and we still only have five, so the phase has not ended.

[sweetandcool]

So if we end now we are supposed to target BK3K?

I am okay with that.

What?

No, Ghug. Target Ghug.

@BK3K
@sweetandcool
This is sweet, knowing he will probably be investigated next night, trying to spread doubt.

Investigate me, I'm happy with that as well.

I thought we agreed on parity. Ghug makes no sense.

I really just want it settled, happy to investigate almost any player.

[bozotheclown]

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Still want ghug to be the vote for the investigation

That's 6/11 - we should HOLD.

The day is not hammered because the majority of players are not hammering the same player.


I suggest we hold off hammering until we have definitively decided on a VT selection.

VT VOTE BK3K

VT Selection Vote Count:

BK3K (4) worcej heart sweetandcool bozo
ghug (4) Jamie BK3K Chaqa Just
rdrivera (1) ghug
worcej (1) rdrivera
sweetandcool (1) Monarch