MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

Defending from "Could be scum: xorxes"

Ah, ok. I was just saying he is not being objective in analyzing my game, because he is only focusing on the part where I scumread him. If he is town, he shouldn't obsess so much about that.

I am not obsessed with you scumreading me. I just find weird you question all my actions and look them as scummy and didn't do the same with other players. Like it's an easy way to look like scum hunting.

[xorxes]

I tend to think our thief was town, because targeting someone night 0 as scum would be suboptimal unless that someone was Durga (whose claim they apparently didn't believe at all?)

Why do you think they didn't believe her claim if the thief was town?

Do you think mafia would waste a kill on a cannon holder?

Hardly a waste N0. She's someone who's been fear killed before too.

But they knew she didn't have a clearing item (if they believed her claim), and with so many potential clears, surely they would try to get one of them every night.

They didn't need to believe her claim to fear kill her, so her not being fear killed does not indicate they did not believe her claim.

[ghug]

Ghug does a lot of deflecting tying everything to be about the head, but it’s a bubble defense I haven’t seen a ton of probing through.

What do you mean by this?

[y2kjbk]

Isn't that a contradiction, xorxes scum-reading rdrivera for his actions and xorxes defending himself from rdrivera by saying he's agreed with rdrivera all game?

[DemonRHK]

Ghug does a lot of deflecting tying everything to be about the head, but it’s a bubble defense I haven’t seen a ton of probing through.

What do you mean by this?

A good chunk of all reason levied at you are hand-waved away as stupid banter caused by the head theft claim or how you are so much smarter than everyone else and they’re so stupid to even suspect you.

ND did the same shit after the political meltdown. We should call it a new variant of the OMGUS called the MENSA.

[ghug]

Why do you think they didn't believe her claim if the thief was town?

Do you think mafia would waste a kill on a cannon holder?

Hardly a waste N0. She's someone who's been fear killed before too.

But they knew she didn't have a clearing item (if they believed her claim), and with so many potential clears, surely they would try to get one of them every night.

They didn't need to believe her claim to fear kill her, so her not being fear killed does not indicate they did not believe her claim.

Maybe, but it's pretty much a shot in the dark at that point to catch a clear. Fearkilling someone who happens to have a powerful item is a decent strategy if you lack a good read, and could easily be more appealing than fearkilling the same person when their item it'sn't known.

y2k's protection explanation is a sensible one though. It's irrelevant to the thief though, so my townread of the thief still stands.

[xorxes]

I am not obsessed with you scumreading me. I just find weird you question all my actions and look them as scummy and didn't do the same with other players. Like it's an easy way to look like scum hunting.

Well, I'm sorry if I question all your actions. That's what I do when someone gets on my radar.

If you had done something that gave me a clear town vibe, I would let down, but that hasn't happened yet. Your vote for Squigs could easily have been a bus, and you voting for ND only tells me you are not likely scum together, but I still think one of you two probably is.

Because I'm getting some town vibes from yavu now, my suspicion of ND-ghug has gone up, and therefore my suspicion of you gone down.

[ghug]

Ghug does a lot of deflecting tying everything to be about the head, but it’s a bubble defense I haven’t seen a ton of probing through.

What do you mean by this?

A good chunk of all reason levied at you are hand-waved away as stupid banter caused by the head theft claim or how you are so much smarter than everyone else and they’re so stupid to even suspect you.

ND did the same shit after the political meltdown. We should call it a new variant of the OMGUS called the MENSA.

If the accusations are conspiracy theories about the head, then that is a perfectly valid and in fact the only defense, especially given how stupid all of them are. Legitimate frustration that our clears are morons is not at all the same as the bravado bullshit we're getting from ND. I haven't hidden behind the head over anything else.

[y2kjbk]

Because I'm getting some town vibes from yavu now, my suspicion of ND-ghug has gone up, and therefore my suspicion of you gone down.

that's some crazy POE logic going on there

[ghug]

Because I'm getting some town vibes from yavu now, my suspicion of ND-ghug has gone up, and therefore my suspicion of you gone down.

that's some crazy POE logic going on there

That's... How you play this game?

[ghug]

I mean not you specifically but any sensible person.

[xorxes]

Isn't that a contradiction, xorxes scum-reading rdrivera for his actions and xorxes defending himself from rdrivera by saying he's agreed with rdrivera all game?

I don't scumread rivera for his actions, more for his non-actions.

And agreeing with scum's stated opinions happens all the time. Scum want to hold townie opinions.

[y2kjbk]

sure, POE matters. i think you're just joshing me and actually get my point that POE logic is lazy and used to just throw up read justifications without much at all.

[ND]

No time, driving long day. Suspects: xorxes, flash and lesser: do, work more to come later my friends.

[y2kjbk]

Anyhow, if I'm alive for D3, I'll try not to bother you all too much. No promises. Hope town can win this.

[brainbomb]

If I dont die here its because my reads are bad and scum likes me spamming the game. If thats the case ill reeval but until I see more from vecna im putting him as my #1 SR

[y2kjbk]

xorxes must go, that is my last post for N2

[ghug]

Scum kill me pls

[xorxes]

I don't have much to add to my previous list:

clears: bb, y2k, damo
fairly obvtown for now: flash, Durga, RHK
probably town: Vecna, worcej
scumpool: ghug-ND, rivera-yavu, some other combinatiion of those.

[Jamiet99uk]

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