M80 Game Thread

[President Eden]

anyway this topic doesnt resonate with alot the players.


These are people I historically just cant read and I always lose trust in
damo
rdrivera
pyxxy
bozo


if you can summarize what their towntells are im all ears.

their towntells are voting scum

My meta in our game together was to scumread everyone who voted for me until we won, so the question is would scum Haze really want to bring that upon himself?

##VOTE ghug

On Bonatogether vs. PE, who are the top wagons as well as voting for each other, I think PE is more likely to be mafia, based on the PE/brainbomb interaction, because I don't understand why PE reacted the way he did to some of the exchanges.

##VOTE PE

Maybe ghuggy wuggy is a snuggy smuggy scummy

in fact imma just say it

if bozo flips scum ghug is his partner

no cap on god 100

At Eden

Which narrative are you more set on
-that bozo's towntell is voting scum
-bozo busses
-bozo is scum with ghug

he disclaimed that vote as a joke a while ago, and it’s not an EOD vote, so who cares

[Bonatogether]

any speedwagons would be dumb here

however i also hate stagnant wagons

i wish nothing stupid happens

[brainbomb]

So in your memory can you recall a game where bozo joke voted his own teammate early game?

[Bonatogether]

their towntells are voting scum

##VOTE ghug

On Bonatogether vs. PE, who are the top wagons as well as voting for each other, I think PE is more likely to be mafia, based on the PE/brainbomb interaction, because I don't understand why PE reacted the way he did to some of the exchanges.

##VOTE PE

Maybe ghuggy wuggy is a snuggy smuggy scummy

in fact imma just say it

if bozo flips scum ghug is his partner

no cap on god 100

At Eden

Which narrative are you more set on
-that bozo's towntell is voting scum
-bozo busses
-bozo is scum with ghug

he disclaimed that vote as a joke a while ago, and it’s not an EOD vote, so who cares

bozo joking isn't possible and also a scumtell

[President Eden]

So in your memory can you recall a game where bozo joke voted his own teammate early game?

I cannot

[President Eden]

At Eden

Which narrative are you more set on
-that bozo's towntell is voting scum
-bozo busses
-bozo is scum with ghug

he disclaimed that vote as a joke a while ago, and it’s not an EOD vote, so who cares

bozo joking isn't possible and also a scumtell

then vote him

[ghug]

At Eden

Which narrative are you more set on
-that bozo's towntell is voting scum
-bozo busses
-bozo is scum with ghug

he disclaimed that vote as a joke a while ago, and it’s not an EOD vote, so who cares

bozo joking isn't possible and also a scumtell

Definitely possible. Also a scumtell.

[Bonatogether]

he disclaimed that vote as a joke a while ago, and it’s not an EOD vote, so who cares

bozo joking isn't possible and also a scumtell

then vote him

no i like voting you more

[brainbomb]

Im just gonna point out that when bozo thinks he is right, and hes town, he doesnt back down and will stick to a read pretty heavily. there was a game where he came after me for fake claiming doc which got chaqa outed, and bozo was still pushing a case on me after id killed three scum. lol

[ghug]

Town
worcej
damo
rdrivera
xcution
bona
pyxxy
sweet and cool
dousing
kakarrotto

Null
ghug
foxcastle
Jamie
Eden
Bozo

Mafia
Haze
Bunnygo

Why are three of the people you said you're incapable of reading in your town pile?

Brain, resurfacing this question.

Also, did you actually not know I scumread Eden when you asked me a little while ago?

[brainbomb]

Town
worcej
damo
rdrivera
xcution
bona
pyxxy
sweet and cool
dousing
kakarrotto

Null
ghug
foxcastle
Jamie
Eden
Bozo

Mafia
Haze
Bunnygo

Why are three of the people you said you're incapable of reading in your town pile?

Brain, resurfacing this question.

Also, did you actually not know I scumread Eden when you asked me a little while ago?

I did not know.
ive never seen anything that indicated to me you took my side in the battle vs eden. I never saw anything of you implying it was ever scum theatre. and seeing you now claiming you find him scummy seems opportunistic just a bit.

as for why three people I struggle to read are on my town list
I like what rivera has posted, dont see anything all that scummy in it
I like what pyxxy has posted, its carefree, and still involved
and damo is annoying and saying things I fundamentally dont like, which probably means hes town.

These are all leap of faith reads with low confidence, but my confidence on them is higher than my null pile.

[brainbomb]

with how the wagons look, I also think bozo is town here. his posts and his arguments seem more like what id assume is his towngame. and since absolutely no one offered any constructive methodology for reading bozo I am in guess realm.

[bozotheclown]

It most certainly does, but none from this game, so that's fine. It's a rebuttal to ghug's assertion not a core part of my argument.

I'm sure there's evidence present for *YOU* but I need you to convince *ME* that there is a "pattern" that's not being followed here.

You've outlined the pattern already, thats fine. but where's evidence to show such a pattern exists or that it's being broken?

oh

well, no. lol

I don't ultimately care very much about how bozo processed a couple of loosely analogous events from over a year ago. ghug brought it up, and I did the legwork on it to discuss it with him, but I think the initial arguments I made (around when I voted for bozo) are the relevant arguments here and the ones I would like people to examine and discuss

What is your opinion on Dousing's implications that you played better in M79 later in the game, that you have not played well D1 of this game, and that he expects you will be more valuable later in this game, apparently more valuable than me specifically?

[Bonatogether]

bona voter to bozo voter pipeline is real


makes me think eden is scum

[brainbomb]

also, I seem in my grievance to have forgotten to correctly vote bozo to pressure him, so time to rectify that

##vote bozotheclown

also if chaqa accepts any vote with even one spelling mistake, I'm really going to be angry

This is just a pressure vote which kak never came back to make any new changes too.

Damo just said hes only voting bozo to save Eden

I'm curious to see if a Bozo wagon is easy to push.

##VOTE Bozo

And Pyxxy appears to have infused his presence here purely to see if it was possible to make it happen. Im reading the pyxxy ISO and see nothing about bozo in here which explains why he wants to kill him.

[ghug]

Why are three of the people you said you're incapable of reading in your town pile?

Brain, resurfacing this question.

Also, did you actually not know I scumread Eden when you asked me a little while ago?

I did not know.
ive never seen anything that indicated to me you took my side in the battle vs eden. I never saw anything of you implying it was ever scum theatre. and seeing you now claiming you find him scummy seems opportunistic just a bit.

as for why three people I struggle to read are on my town list
I like what rivera has posted, dont see anything all that scummy in it
I like what pyxxy has posted, its carefree, and still involved
and damo is annoying and saying things I fundamentally dont like, which probably means hes town.

These are all leap of faith reads with low confidence, but my confidence on them is higher than my null pile.

I'm incredulous because much of the last several pages has been about my reads of Eden and bozo. I'm not sure how you miss that. I also voiced a scumread of him last night.

[brainbomb]

##Bozo

I'd vote Bona because I don't like the quality of their posts but Bozo look like their the lead wagon rn and I don't want Eden to die. I think Eden still has info to give/analysis to share.

Form what I've seen of Eden, he seems strongest in the late game; he plays well when he has a great deal of info/when he has an idea he wants to implement. It kinda tracks that he wants a game where theres as much info to be gleamed as possible.

Also I might not be here at EOD and I wanna park my vote *somewhere*

again, a pump and dump vote that landed on bozo. because Eden is more likely to be better later. Not sure how they came to this conclusion, but it isnt terrible I guess

[BunnyGo]

or there is the very nuanced bunnygo stance that were both mafia but not on the same mafia team and the setup is actually multiball?

Tbf that is not what BunnyGo said - and I did not accuse him of saying that. I just accused him of not thinking about the connection between you that would exist if you were both Scum, which is what he purported.

Your inability to understand scum reads as independent considerations as opposed to accusations of simultaneity is worrisome.

[brainbomb]

Brain, resurfacing this question.

Also, did you actually not know I scumread Eden when you asked me a little while ago?

I did not know.
ive never seen anything that indicated to me you took my side in the battle vs eden. I never saw anything of you implying it was ever scum theatre. and seeing you now claiming you find him scummy seems opportunistic just a bit.

as for why three people I struggle to read are on my town list
I like what rivera has posted, dont see anything all that scummy in it
I like what pyxxy has posted, its carefree, and still involved
and damo is annoying and saying things I fundamentally dont like, which probably means hes town.

These are all leap of faith reads with low confidence, but my confidence on them is higher than my null pile.

I'm incredulous because much of the last several pages has been about my reads of Eden and bozo. I'm not sure how you miss that. I also voiced a scumread of him last night.

there has been a ton going on ghug, alot of ugliness, and I havent had time to read much of you at all. I saw you calling me scum quite a few times and I just decided that rather than worry about that id keep doing what I do and youd eventually get it right anyway.

[BunnyGo]

ghug has always had me as mafia and eden as town from what I recall. I dont think there was ever even a moment of doubt about eden from ghug. and this is potentially legit, or a latent form of buddying where ghug knows that siding with me here is the fastest way to get eden woke about him

the way he's approaching me/bozo isn't making sense to me either

Jamie had a post about this that struck a chord with me but I'd have to go review it to see if it landed right. basically that ghug's claims about me and bozo aren't congruent

That post was not compelling...

I think you're both scummy in a vacuum. I find your reasons for scumreading each other questionable, but I can see town bozo coming to his conclusion on you more easily than town Eden coming to your conclusion on bozo. I doubt you're scum together. The only inconsistency there is if you assume, like Jamie often does, that everything is black and white. If I'm not certain of any of them, I'm allowed to think all of those things at the same time.

@jamie. See this post for another example of non-simultaneous accusation of scummery.