MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[DemonRHK]

Scenario 1
Y2k stole head from scum buddy ghug and is faking med save

Scenario 2
Scum really stole ghug head- y2k is real

Scenario 3
Y2k stole medkit- ghug still has replacement head and both are scum

Scenario 4
Y2k is pretending to have med saved bb
Ghug is town pretending to have had his head stolen to force scums theif out

Why does everyone continue to assume the thief is scum?

Because they haven't fessed up. It means the thief is either scum or was Chaqa or MF. Anyone else should have came forward to help credit you.

[xorxes]

Wait, weren't you the one advocating for big reveals early?

Not "big reveals", I wanted the two cannons to out so they'd be accountable to town. We didn't know then if one or both were in Mafia's hands.

I don't see any advantage for any other items to be revealed until we all reveal.

[brainbomb]

Y2k vanished after his vote and my ensuing push

[y2kjbk]

The only way anyone could conceivably see me as scum is if I started as the thief.

[brainbomb]

Scenario 1
Y2k stole head from scum buddy ghug and is faking med save

Scenario 2
Scum really stole ghug head- y2k is real

Scenario 3
Y2k stole medkit- ghug still has replacement head and both are scum

Scenario 4
Y2k is pretending to have med saved bb
Ghug is town pretending to have had his head stolen to force scums theif out

Why does everyone continue to assume the thief is scum?

Because they haven't fessed up. It means the thief is either scum or was Chaqa or MF. Anyone else should have came forward to help credit you.

So you think ghug is town and scum has a head

[brainbomb]

Okay.

Tinfoil theory time was fun.

Moving on

##Vote ND

[damo666]

In fact I think your statement pretty much reduces the possibilities to three items that you could have started with.

Sticky

He couldn't have been sticky because in that case I think the birthday card would not have been delivered to him, it would have got stuck on him and he would have had it available to send to someone else.

Correct

[y2kjbk]

Or maybe i'm not the thief, but the thief would have to be scum. it wouldn't necessarily be due to the no-kill on brainbomb, but due to being confident that two nurse's kits wouldn't be out there to potentially counterclaim me. a scum thief would likely have needed to steal a kit to make that move.

[rdrivera2005]

Why tf do you townread Rivera and Tom?

Good question. I tried to be as obvtown as I can but I don't think it's working and Tom did nothing to be townread.

You townread me N1. Now you scumreading me again. What led to the change in view?

I have a townlean on you at N1 because I thought your push on ND was too bad to be from someone I knew is a good scum player. But you are also doing nothing that remotely looks like trying to solve the game and this is give me a bad feeling. And you could be a good counter wagon to Ghug, just like me. At this point we can probably trade a myslinch for getting more info from the players we don't have much.

[Vecna]

I will vote ND. He really doesn't contribute as town.
##vote ND
If he rolls scum, I will do everything to kill Vecna for this ↓

Have you actually ever see ND lurk as scum though? Because I can only remember ND being active and convincingly town as scum. Which I feel you should also be aware of. This ND just reminds me a lot of our small game where he was the easiest mislynch D1 because he often doesnt care as town.

Maybe he's just lifting on that, but he would be noticing as scum that it isnt working out the way he intends to.

Im pretty much leaning on ND simply being town here.

So do you disagree with the reasoning? People are always acting like activity is any indication for alignment. For actual decent players, its not.

Yes ND is actually one of the better scum players on this website. He does not have to fake being inactive. Its completely lazy ass reasoning.

[xorxes]

If the other medkit was on bozo its also possible y2k is lying and we wont ever know

The only way y2k can be scum requires ghug to be his teammate I'm pretty sure, right?

I mean, technically he could have claimed the medkit without knowing whether or not the two medkits were in play, taking a risk. Or if bozo had the medkit and lost it to a sticky Mafia. But these are very unlikely scenarios.

[DemonRHK]

I think the following:

- If the repair kit is still alive, it was a townie that grabbed the Cop Kit.

- If ghug is town, The replacement head is on one of the scum or died on MF.

- If the sticky is town and still in play they should claim it.

- I'm a fan of doing dumbs and should continue to do so.

[xorxes]

FOAM HAMMER - You can bash a fellow player over the head and stun them. At night, PM both GMs in the format ##BASH [TARGET]. The target will be roleblocked.

Squiggs didnt use this N1?
Hmmm

Scum has a veteran on it. Who knows not to spray roleblocks around. Interesting.

You don't give Squigs credit for realizing that?

But yes, scum probably does have a veteran (rd).

[rdrivera2005]

If the other medkit was on bozo its also possible y2k is lying and we wont ever know

The only way y2k can be scum requires ghug to be his teammate I'm pretty sure, right?

I mean, technically he could have claimed the medkit without knowing whether or not the two medkits were in play, taking a risk. Or if bozo had the medkit and lost it to a sticky Mafia. But these are very unlikely scenarios.

Why on Earth are we discussing this kind of unlikely cenários? First Flash and now y2k. We should focus on people we have no info.

[yavuzovic]

Xorxes smells like town, it's not based on something concrete, I feel.it.

Vecna is being confusing, I don't think a scum would protect his friend that strongly. I can't say anything but I can't stay.on Flash - he isn't today's lynch. So ##vote Vecna, for now. We will see if I stay there though.

[rdrivera2005]

FOAM HAMMER - You can bash a fellow player over the head and stun them. At night, PM both GMs in the format ##BASH [TARGET]. The target will be roleblocked.

Squiggs didnt use this N1?
Hmmm

Scum has a veteran on it. Who knows not to spray roleblocks around. Interesting.

You don't give Squigs credit for realizing that?

But yes, scum probably does have a veteran (rd).

Do your think I tried to kill Brain and roleblocked Durga? I am offended now.

[xorxes]

Because they haven't fessed up. It means the thief is either scum or was Chaqa or MF. Anyone else should have came forward to help credit you.

He doesn't need that type of credit. His claim that his head was stolen is completely believable without any confirmation. All the conspiracy theories around that claim being false are nonsense.

That doesn't give ghug any towncred though. He would have reported the theft whether he was town or scum.

[rdrivera2005]

I think the following:

- If the repair kit is still alive, it was a townie that grabbed the Cop Kit.

- If ghug is town, The replacement head is on one of the scum or died on MF.

- If the sticky is town and still in play they should claim it.

- I'm a fan of doing dumbs and should continue to do so.

Could you put some reasoning on this statements or you are just throwing it at random?

[brainbomb]

ND would maybe rb durga.
Nd would absolutely steal from ghug.
ND is lurking most of all other suspects

[Vecna]

Flash saying dont shoot can also be 1 wolf to save bullet

Durga/flash can both be scum. Its well within boths meta

Brainbombs Razor - the most contrived explanation is the best

I feel like this is a brilliant new term, but I want to coin it after my own namesake