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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#41 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:57 am

I interpret 4 as English not being first language. Does the team agree?

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#42 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:57 am
I interpret 4 as English not being first language. Does the team agree?
The not-totally-binary nature of the answer suggest it do be that way, yez.
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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#43 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:20 pm

Is it a darts player?

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#44 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:38 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:57 am
I interpret 4 as English not being first language. Does the team agree?
The not-totally-binary nature of the answer suggest it do be that way, yez.
We should stop asking that question (and specifying "native English speaker" isn't much better), it just doesn't do much when it applies to so many people outside the anglosphere.

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#45 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 pm

Primarily known for being a chess player?

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#46 Post by Szpoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:51 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:38 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:57 am
I interpret 4 as English not being first language. Does the team agree?
The not-totally-binary nature of the answer suggest it do be that way, yez.
We should stop asking that question (and specifying "native English speaker" isn't much better), it just doesn't do much when it applies to so many people outside the anglosphere.
I dare to disagree. The definite answer to 'a native speaker of English?' has been very helpful. But we are dealing here with the aftermath of a somewhat ambiguous question 'speaking English?', which, to my eye, was unfortunate. The answer 'they know English' can easily be read as sarcasm.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#47 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:30 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 pm
Primarily known for being a chess player?
How many apolitical live retired chess players can you think of off the top of your head.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#48 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:35 pm

Szpoti wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:17 am
@GM, confirmation request:

the person used to be active as an athlete but is mostly known for his activity outside this domain?
#7 never confirmed they were an athlete. #13 shows they were never an athlete. So now #7 tells you they were either a sportsperson (analyst, coach, etc.) or a professional games-person.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#49 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:36 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:55 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:25 am
1. Real.
2. Male.
3. Not a scientist, politician, artist, writer/filmmaker, or entertainer.
4. They know English.
5. Alive.
6. Not a businessman.
7. Is a sportsperson, athlete, or professional games-person.
8. Does not principally compete in a team sport.
9. Not an Olympic medalist.
10. Not currently active as an athlete/player in sport/game he is most well-known for. [#7 did not establish precisely whether they are an athlete or not].
11. Not known for playing a ball sport.
12. Not a runner.
13. Not primarily known as an athlete.

NOT: Tony Hawk (Foxcastle), Boris Spassky (damo666).
##GM given 10 can we assume 'Does' in 8 includes 'Did'? (Clarification, not a counting question. You can be mean and refuse to reply if you wish.
Does/did works for me.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#50 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:37 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:20 pm
Is it a darts player?
No.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#51 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:37 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 pm
Primarily known for being a chess player?
Yes!

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#52 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:41 pm

Szpoti wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:51 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:38 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am


The not-totally-binary nature of the answer suggest it do be that way, yez.
We should stop asking that question (and specifying "native English speaker" isn't much better), it just doesn't do much when it applies to so many people outside the anglosphere.
I dare to disagree. The definite answer to 'a native speaker of English?' has been very helpful. But we are dealing here with the aftermath of a somewhat ambiguous question 'speaking English?', which, to my eye, was unfortunate. The answer 'they know English' can easily be read as sarcasm.
I suppose my answer had a bit of a tone because so many non-natives know English.

I will be generous and clarify that it is not their 1st language, since Dousing probably meant to ask that.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#53 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:44 pm

1. Real.
2. Male.
3. Not a scientist, politician, artist, writer/filmmaker, or entertainer.
4. They know English. [Not first language]
5. Alive.
6. Not a businessman.
7. Is a sportsperson, athlete, or professional games-person.
8. Does not principally compete in a team sport.
9. Not an Olympic medalist.
10. Not currently active as an athlete/player in sport/game he is most well-known for. [#7 did not establish precisely whether they are an athlete or not].
11. Not known for playing a ball sport.
12. Not a runner.
13. Not primarily known as an athlete.
14. Not a darts player.
15. Is a chess player.

NOT: Tony Hawk (Foxcastle), Boris Spassky (damo666).

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#54 Post by Dousing » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:57 pm

Free guess: Gary Kasparov

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#55 Post by Dousing » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:58 pm

If it’s not Gary then is the person’s first language Russian?

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#56 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Dousing wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:57 pm
Free guess: Gary Kasparov
No.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#57 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Dousing wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:58 pm
If it’s not Gary then is the person’s first language Russian?
Yes.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#58 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:01 pm

1. Real.
2. Male.
3. Not a scientist, politician, artist, writer/filmmaker, or entertainer.
4. They know English. [Not first language]
5. Alive.
6. Not a businessman.
7. Is a sportsperson, athlete, or professional games-person.
8. Does not principally compete in a team sport.
9. Not an Olympic medalist.
10. Not currently active as an athlete/player in sport/game he is most well-known for. [#7 did not establish precisely whether they are an athlete or not].
11. Not known for playing a ball sport.
12. Not a runner.
13. Not primarily known as an athlete.
14. Not a darts player.
15. Is a chess player.
16. First language is Russian.

NOT: Tony Hawk (Foxcastle), Boris Spassky (damo666), Garry Kasparov (Dousing)

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#59 Post by Szpoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm

I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

#60 Post by Szpoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:22 pm

Vladimir Kramnik?

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