MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[flash2015]

flash, why couldn't you have just shot Moscow without claiming?

Yes, I could have done that as well. That could have been a smart move...but then there may have been a danger that the two cannons may have both shot Moscow. I don't know what would have happened in that case. And I thought the consensus was that cannon holders should announce their shot before firing.

[damo666]

Good save.

I received the birthday card.

Why say this without revealing who from?

[damo666]

If scum grabbed the gun ill be dead shortly

You make a good point scum might have a gun, I am sorry to out so quick but just in case damo is full clear, sorry to suspect you last night. And yes, I am satisfied.

After being ticked off by his scummate?

What is the danger of outing?

[damo666]

Hi Squigs,

still think i'm useless Mr Dead Toy?

[y2kjbk]

flash, why couldn't you have just shot Moscow without claiming?

Yes, I could have done that as well. That could have been a smart move...but then there may have been a danger that the two cannons may have both shot Moscow. I don't know what would have happened in that case. And I thought the consensus was that cannon holders should announce their shot before firing.

The consensus was that cannons should claim. Which you seemed to think was a bad idea and made you suspect xorxes. I wonder what you would have done absent a scan on MF. And if you thought someone else would shoot MF, what better than to immediately order it without wasting time posting and going through some theatric "OK brainbomb, I'm going to trust you. here we go, winding up. don't get in the way other cannon, here it comes."?

[y2kjbk]

lol damo, you can't take anything personally from anyone when they roll scum.

[xorxes]

Good save.

I received the birthday card.

Why say this without revealing who from?

To keep you safe from Mafia NK. He reconsidered when he realized there was a potential cannon in play and he could be shot before revealing.

[y2kjbk]

Flash, basically your windy logic for justifying why you did what you did with your cannon is also faulty. You contradict yourself on the matter of whether the cannons should claim or not.

[flash2015]

flash, why couldn't you have just shot Moscow without claiming?

Yes, I could have done that as well. That could have been a smart move...but then there may have been a danger that the two cannons may have both shot Moscow. I don't know what would have happened in that case. And I thought the consensus was that cannon holders should announce their shot before firing.

The consensus was that cannons should claim. Which you seemed to think was a bad idea and made you suspect xorxes. I wonder what you would have done absent a scan on MF. And if you thought someone else would shoot MF, what better than to immediately order it without wasting time posting and going through some theatric "OK brainbomb, I'm going to trust you. here we go, winding up. don't get in the way other cannon, here it comes."?

I didn't see the MoscowFleet thing straight away. I didn't know whether the other cannon holder may have seen it...so again I was wanting to make sure we didn't both shoot. The BB thing is because I usually try to vote BB D1 and this would throw that plan out of kilter. A meta joke.

My initial plan was to take out the top wagon an hour or two before the end of the day. The assumption being that we must have good reason to vote for that specific person for them to be the top wagon, they would have had time to defend themselves so we would have learned something and we would still have time to choose someone else depending on how the top wagon rolled. In comparison the Chaqa shot by Durga was completely and utterly useless. I only goaded her on because I still wasn't sure whether she was bluffing or not.

[flash2015]

Flash, basically your windy logic for justifying why you did what you did with your cannon is also faulty. You contradict yourself on the matter of whether the cannons should claim or not.

Explain how I am contradicting myself. This is starting to get tiresome.

[y2kjbk]

I have a guilty on moscowfleet

I have a guilty on moscowfleet

You really turned up a guilty on Moscow? I am going to trust you here...

27 minutes it took you to acknowledge it. That's fairly quick.

[y2kjbk]

And this is only tiresome if your primary goal right now is to not get lynched.

[damo666]

lol damo, you can't take anything personally from anyone when they roll scum.

I was only joking

[flash2015]

Flash, basically your windy logic for justifying why you did what you did with your cannon is also faulty. You contradict yourself on the matter of whether the cannons should claim or not.

Explain how I am contradicting myself. This is starting to get tiresome.

Let me make this clear - cannons should not claim if they were not going to fire...as it gives scum a chance to NK them (which is why I thought Xorxes plan was sketchy). However, there was no problem with claiming when they fired.

[damo666]

Good save.

I received the birthday card.

Why say this without revealing who from?

To keep you safe from Mafia NK. He reconsidered when he realized there was a potential cannon in play and he could be shot before revealing.

How does not revealing make me safer, scum already know I'm town? Once revealed I am outed as having no item so of less value as a NK and arguably more safe.

[flash2015]

And this is only tiresome if your primary goal right now is to not get lynched.

What would you like me to do then? Not respond to your questions?

I really don't understand how you can think I shot Moscow as scum. You are smoking crack. It assumes that I am the guy to potentially bring it home for scum. I am not that guy. I don't have the experience for it.

[y2kjbk]

i'd like you to scumhunt. you being defensive isn't doing anything to change my scum-read. and i don't mean "here are reads happy?", squigs got me with that.

[xorxes]

How does not revealing make me safer, scum already know I'm town? Once revealed I am outed as having no item so of less value as a NK and arguably more safe.

No, because now you're unlynchable, so Mafia HAS to kill you sooner or later.

That's why it's better to keep the potential clears hidden as long as possible, so that Mafia kills potential lynches, reducing the pool where they can hide.

[worcej]

Vote Count 2.5 (just keeping the VC up to date while I have time)

ghug (3) - Durga, ND, flash2015
yavuzovic (2) - Tom Bombadil, Brainbomb
rdrivera2005 (1) - ghug
ND (1) - Xorxes

Currently GHUG is set to be lynched.

You have 38 hours left in D2.

You are missing my vote.

##vote Durga just to make it easier than re-posting.

[y2kjbk]

worcej that's from a while ago. peterlund bot is fixed http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=39