M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1781 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:37 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:36 pm
At the work conference.

If people genuinely want me to shoot today I need two people to quickly vote me
OH - you need those votes the same phase?

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1782 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:38 pm

##vote flum

Though I expect you’re going to cap me based on dialogue…

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1783 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:39 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:17 am
Well, Ghug was obviously town so it's not a surprise NK.

I still think HR and Flum are town.

I have a lot doubts about Koala, I just don't feel the same Koala of first game but also it's not the same fluffy Koala from last game.

Right now I would say Bozo and Jamiet are my top suspects. Followed by Damo, Bona and Worcej in this order.

Bozo is just forgettable this game which doesn't happen when he is town. And Jamiet reactions seems over the top like he wants to look like angry town Jamiet.
Why did you not protect ghug N1 if he was obviously town?


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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1785 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 pm

The only major downside of a flum shot is if it misses and we move to 4-2 now, we have to do a no kill and move into D4 at 3-2.


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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1787 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:41 pm

I don’t see the benefit in waiting for the shot. I think we get quicker info with 2 kills.

##Vote flum

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1788 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:42 pm

##vote bozo

Hopefully his momentary 2 votes got him his bullet.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1789 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 pm
The only major downside of a flum shot is if it misses and we move to 4-2 now, we have to do a no kill and move into D4 at 3-2.
We would not have to no-kill, especially with Fluminator being a likely NK.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1790 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:41 pm
I don’t see the benefit in waiting for the shot. I think we get quicker info with 2 kills.

##Vote flum
This is fair, just stating again since I may eat it: we need to no kill if town is hit.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1791 Post by worcej » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 pm
The only major downside of a flum shot is if it misses and we move to 4-2 now, we have to do a no kill and move into D4 at 3-2.
We would not have to no-kill, especially with Fluminator being a likely NK.
You are so scummy this game.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1792 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm

I’d say Flum goes with their gut here but for info sake:

In no particular target order:

Bozo:
Flum:
Hamilton B: worcej, koala
Jamie:
Koala:
Rivera:
Worcej:

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1793 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:45 pm

Then Flum tells us the two up for daykill based on their read.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1794 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:46 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:41 pm
I don’t see the benefit in waiting for the shot. I think we get quicker info with 2 kills.

##Vote flum
The downside is a missed shot uses our last mis-kill, so a missed shot and a mis-kill would end the game today. However, I think it is still the best option.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1795 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:48 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 pm
The only major downside of a flum shot is if it misses and we move to 4-2 now, we have to do a no kill and move into D4 at 3-2.
We would not have to no-kill, especially with Fluminator being a likely NK.
You are so scummy this game.
4-2 with a town clear is better than 3-2 with no town clear, and Fluminator is as close to a town clear as possible with the closed setup.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1796 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:50 pm

Fully trusting rivera's claim, the pool of suspects is small. 2 out of 5. I like the chances of the shot and the kill. I think. Haven't pushed that to the next outcome.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1797 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:50 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:02 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:09 am
On reflection I think claiming Doc makes Rdrivera marginally more likely to be town.

My logic is that in a setup with *unknown* PRs, if you're scum then claiming VT is actually a safer bet than claiming a standard town PR like Doc or Cop, because a VT claim carries zero risk of counter claim.
In this case, though, rdrivera was likely going to be the DK if he did not claim to be a PR. I think the fact that there has been only one other PR claim is the thing that most supports rdrivera's claim being real, but I am not sure if 2 PRs is any more likely that 1.
It's true that one scenario worth considering is that Flum is the *only* PR in an otherwise very Vanilla setup.

I did half joke at the start that there would be a certain kind of fun in a "closed" setup with no PRs at all.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1798 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:51 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:09 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:00 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:16 am


It is not unreasonable for the mafia to have been RBing the NK.
And now you say that could be a RB in play. So, ignore my last message.
If you are the doctor, the mafia having a RB seems reasonable, and there have only been 2 NKs, so if the mafia does have a RB, I would expect the mafia to RB the NK so that they do not have town players claiming to be RBed. However, that would mean the mafia could RB you if you, and we have no way of verifying your RB claim.
This appears mechanically correct.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1799 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:52 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:43 pm
I’d say Flum goes with their gut here but for info sake:

In no particular target order:

Bozo:
Flum:
Hamilton B: worcej, koala
Jamie:
Koala:
Rivera:
Worcej:
Bozo: worcej, rdrivera
Flum:
Hamilton B: worcej, koala
Jamie:
Koala:
Rivera:
Worcej:

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1800 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:52 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:14 pm
How helpful would it be for us to list our preferred pairs? One being the vig shot, the other the day kill. I think it could offer something, or maybe not. I'm thinking small.

However, at rivera's claim there were two wagons. Assuming the validity of the PR claims, we've got a possibilities.

On Rivera were Koala, bozo, worcej.

On bozo were myself and jamie.
Ok my preferred pair is you and Bozo.
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