MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

I would have unclaimed the moment that anyone who was at real that of going over claimed doc lmao.

This sites incessant bias against subs doomed me the minute I became one. My previous slot did me no favors. I'm smart enough to realize I'm a miskill town can not afford and I will always be miskilled.

Or

I can claim the save on brainbomb because I believe it's real and I can provide cover to the real doc and hopefully people are smart enough to play along so mafia miskill me instead of town.

when in this game has anyone seriously proposed voting you because of the fact that you're a sub, or said they suspect you because you're a sub? this just isn't true

I've played exactly 3 games here. Let's not pretend there's not a bias against subs here lol I've seen it every game I've played.

I will fully admit there is a bias against subs, while I also being firm in that your sub status is the smallest part of suspicion on your slot.

Swordsman was my #1 scum suspect pre-sub. he was on a lot of people's lists.

This wasn't Sub -> Sus, this is Sus -> Sub

[Bonatogether]

This is a shit take. And don't insult me again.

i seriously don't understand in what world this was a good play

Like most of them really

i literally don't even know what to say to you

you're just wrong

[Chaqa]

I'm not hammering yet, but jeez Louise

This is a funny comment because Bozo is the only person who's been right lol

It's even funnier because bozo is a wolf lol

This comment is either:
1. Scum Neon outing her teammate
2. Scum Neon shading Bozo
3. Town Neon shading Bozo

weird comment all ways

[Princess Neon]

what benefit did you get

what threat did you avert

who did you catch with this

I gave the doctor cover if people were capable of playing around a fake claim on this site but clearly they aren't

I avoided the threat of brainbomb tinfoils and the doctor needing to claim against them and confused the wolf team. Proof is that Eden and the wolves clearly had a plan to find out if I was being honest yesterday. Proof of that is when I flip town and you actually go back and examine the play of the flipped wolf.

I dunno flip my PoE and let's find out lol

people do fakeclaims on this site and it just doesn't happen like this lmfao.

brainbomb's tinfoils are not a threat to be averted. that's just brainbomb being brainbomb playing to his strengths. no way rdr would have felt the need to claim against a brain scumread, which, even if it had happened, which is dubious, because brain was townreading rdr for a while, like you said, brain often switches reads, so it would literally not be a problem.

regarding eden, he was literally doing what's respectable (and for eden, standard) townplay. he asked everyone who was unsure of your claim to clarify what they were doing. this just doesn't jibe with how i understand eden.

did you learn that from your claim stuff?

Bruh... Eden fishing for a CC in hindsight was so incredibly obvious

That's the only thing I'm upset at myself for frankly... that I didn't see it and vote Eden because of my town read.

[Princess Neon]

in that world, i don't understand that if rdr was obviously doc, why did no one in scumchat point this out to eden (ie, he wouldn't need to determine if neon was doc)

I don't no how is incredibly hard to understand that RDR was obviously doc because of how they played around my slot YESTERDAY when Eden was clearly trying to figure out if my claim was real or not

I have to revisit. Was Eden trying to fact check you, or trying to fish out the real doc? Idk the answer yet

I know the answer.

I've given it to you. It's also extremely obvious to me in hindsight since I know I'm town.

Reread Edens interactions with and about me assuming I'm town and tell me what you see.

[Princess Neon]

Just to make it clear, if Neon wasn’t mafia they would have killed her last night. There’s no word mafia kills rivera instead, especially over Bozo, who was way more townread

This is a pretty awful take if you just like read the game. RDR was blatantly obvious doc.

No, Neon, you were.

Anyone who blatantly thought Rivera was the Cop had more information than town.

That's incredibly incorrect.

Like...I suck at PR hunting and obviously I know I was fake claiming but even I can see how incredibly obvious RDR was lol

[Bonatogether]

I don't no how is incredibly hard to understand that RDR was obviously doc because of how they played around my slot YESTERDAY when Eden was clearly trying to figure out if my claim was real or not

I have to revisit. Was Eden trying to fact check you, or trying to fish out the real doc? Idk the answer yet

I know the answer.

I've given it to you. It's also extremely obvious to me in hindsight since I know I'm town.

Reread Edens interactions with and about me assuming I'm town and tell me what you see.

'assume i'm town. reread those interactions, and look at how they confirm my towniness'

[BK3K]

I'm not moving my vote. But just want to throw out that Chaqa seemed really sus D4 and really town this day. Idk how to make sense of that

But I'll figure that out later

[Princess Neon]

in that world, i don't understand that if rdr was obviously doc, why did no one in scumchat point this out to eden (ie, he wouldn't need to determine if neon was doc)

I don't no how is incredibly hard to understand that RDR was obviously doc because of how they played around my slot YESTERDAY when Eden was clearly trying to figure out if my claim was real or not

well like only bozo has admitted to having picked up on it

I mean that's about the only reason I hesitate on my scum read of Bozo

Cause if I'm the real wolf I would never admit I realized RDR was the real doc lol

[KoalaAttack]

I'd be pretty mad but don't worry you can all keep blaming me in DVC.

What is a DVC?

[Princess Neon]

3 out of 8 people have declared that they're not moving from you today

if you're town you've made a terrible move for no gain

3 out of 8 people have Level 0 mafia takes

you just can't retract a hardclaim lmfao

it's not fucking hard

you lie in a hardclaim, you die

that's why hardclaims mean something

It's funny because of how not true that is in all of the mafia games I've played across many many sites lol

[Chaqa]

I'm not moving my vote. But just want to throw out that Chaqa seemed really sus D4 and really town this day. Idk how to make sense of that

But I'll figure that out later

Someone had to pick up the slack now that Eden's gone.

I typed this up before remembering Eden was mafia, but I'm going to post it anyway for posterity and posteriority.

[Bonatogether]

3 out of 8 people have Level 0 mafia takes

you just can't retract a hardclaim lmfao

it's not fucking hard

you lie in a hardclaim, you die

that's why hardclaims mean something

It's funny because of how not true that is in all of the mafia games I've played across many many sites lol

its ok, most places aren't webdip

[Chaqa]

What even is a hard claim if it isn't harder than a regular claim

[Princess Neon]

nah there's claiming, and then there's hardclaiming. it's not just a difference of emphasis

also you're not at ALL obviously town lol

your plan ran into the rather foreseeable issue that the doc didn't think you were town. 'if he had just played along!!!' is the real level 0 take because you can't just assume you can go from nothing to running a high-trust play with a pr, especially when you had failed to really produce (and despite your claims of greatness, where are you now?)

Well see. RDR had the forethought to not CC but not the forethought to actually hide how much they didn't trust me.

It's not that hard to just go "oh Neon is town" and force the wolfs to kill me instead of making it so incredibly obvious that you are the real doctor.

i don't understand why you thought the doc needed help like that

I've explained several times what my thought process was.

I was going to be miskilled in all worlds. Would've preferred wolfs wasted a nk on me. Frankly it should've worked too if like 1 thing changed.

[Chaqa]

@Bozo: I think you can see that Neon has to go today. We don't need to hammer this instant, but I think ending before the 24h mark should happen.

[Bonatogether]

Well see. RDR had the forethought to not CC but not the forethought to actually hide how much they didn't trust me.

It's not that hard to just go "oh Neon is town" and force the wolfs to kill me instead of making it so incredibly obvious that you are the real doctor.

i don't understand why you thought the doc needed help like that

I've explained several times what my thought process was.

I was going to be miskilled in all worlds. Would've preferred wolfs wasted a nk on me. Frankly it should've worked too if like 1 thing changed.

yeah and i didn't get it

what a fatalist worldview

[Bonatogether]

do we need one or two more hammers

[Princess Neon]

hardclaim means no take-backs and no bullshit

Turns out people lie.

Town and wolfs as it turns out.

See thing is. Your all gonna talk mad shit about me and blame me when you kill the obvious town player who provided cover for the doctor. That's cool.

But the question is. If RDR played along and hid his PR I would die and if I did I give RDR another day and a PoE slot gets cleared by the wolfs instead of a misexe

So take the level 0 thought of "lie = Mafia" and think about it deeper instead of speed hammering a town because you think there's only one way to play mafia

Also - I've highlighted in red a large part.

You did not provide cover for the doctor.

Rivera was not under suspicion but not clear either. He was not a likely nightkill or daykill until possibly this very night.

All you did was draw attention to him via his stubbornness with not believing you.

Yes I didn't provide cover because the real doc didn't play around my claim. That's really not my fault lol.

[Chaqa]

do we need one or two more hammers

We'll need five hammers on Neon, so two more. One, if Koala hammers.