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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1661 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:55 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:16 pm
Hmm. Rereading that does make Bo look good. He picked up on 2 PRs and broke a TvT tie.

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What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
Bo did it 20 minutes to go though.

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#1662 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:55 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:40 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:54 pm


A non-specfic PR claimant voting another non-specific PR claimant when there are only 3 PR claimants is bizarre in the extreme.
KoalaAttack just did that because BunnyGo was pushing him to not self vote.
He should use his vote more wisely.
It is not clear from KoalaAttack's posts that he had read BunnyGo's PR claim yet.
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#1663 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:56 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:16 pm
Hmm. Rereading that does make Bo look good. He picked up on 2 PRs and broke a TvT tie.

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What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
No. My long post you copied.

More than just the vote shift, the fact he picked up on me and worcej not being VT.

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#1664 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:58 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:55 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:40 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:38 pm


KoalaAttack just did that because BunnyGo was pushing him to not self vote.
He should use his vote more wisely.
It is not clear from KoalaAttack's posts that he had read BunnyGo's PR claim yet.
OK

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#1665 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:58 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:56 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:16 pm
Hmm. Rereading that does make Bo look good. He picked up on 2 PRs and broke a TvT tie.

##unvote
What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
No. My long post you copied.

More than just the vote shift, the fact he picked up on me and worcej not being VT.
He also hinted he, like me, thought K was gambler.

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#1666 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:03 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:55 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:16 pm
Hmm. Rereading that does make Bo look good. He picked up on 2 PRs and broke a TvT tie.

##unvote
What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
Bo did it 20 minutes to go though.
bo_sox hadn't posted for over 4 hours when he posted 23 minute before EOD. If bo_sox came back at that time, his choices would have been to stay off the wagons, break the T vs. T tie, or cause a 3 way tie. As mafia, there would be no reason to stay off the wagons since the top 2 were town.

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#1667 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:10 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:39 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:33 pm
Im gonna be egotistical here and make a strong claim that the ghug kill only really makes sense if mafia believed I could be watcher.

Given I was turning hard on ghug being scum, they may have believed he was the least likely person to receive a doctor visit or for me to watch.
Then why wouldn't they have NKd you?
In case I wasn’t watcher and was baiting a kill and could myself he watched or saved?

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#1668 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:17 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:56 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:16 pm
Hmm. Rereading that does make Bo look good. He picked up on 2 PRs and broke a TvT tie.

##unvote
What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
No. My long post you copied.

More than just the vote shift, the fact he picked up on me and worcej not being VT.
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:51 pm
Damo was pretty active early and hasn't been on in several hours after saying he had "pub poker tonight" and wouldn't be on for EON. I don't know why you consider him "checked out" when he told you a long time ago he wasn't going to be here tonight.

Worcej and Bunny are both active, which is a plus on Day 1 even if I don't think either of them are amazingly townie at this point. Given how dead this EOD is I'm really against killing active people.

Pyxxy is a lurker that has done nothing to my eye other than briefly shitpost with me and try, without really trying that hard, to place a scumread on Chaqa. And then vote for Bunny. It's lackadaisical and kinda scummy, and he's a lurker. A+ day 1 kill.
When bo_sox posted this, you, worcej, and damo were the only other wagons, so it would make sense as mafia to justify not voting for you. However, at the time I did agree with bo_sox's reasons for pushing for pyxxy.

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#1669 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:19 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:10 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:39 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:33 pm
Im gonna be egotistical here and make a strong claim that the ghug kill only really makes sense if mafia believed I could be watcher.

Given I was turning hard on ghug being scum, they may have believed he was the least likely person to receive a doctor visit or for me to watch.
Then why wouldn't they have NKd you?
In case I wasn’t watcher and was baiting a kill and could myself he watched or saved?
Why weren't you worried about a real watcher counter claiming you?

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#1670 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:22 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:10 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:39 pm


Then why wouldn't they have NKd you?
In case I wasn’t watcher and was baiting a kill and could myself he watched or saved?
Why weren't you worried about a real watcher counter claiming you?
And why would real watcher watch you?!

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#1671 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:23 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:10 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:39 pm


Then why wouldn't they have NKd you?
In case I wasn’t watcher and was baiting a kill and could myself he watched or saved?
Why weren't you worried about a real watcher counter claiming you?
The thought didn't really cross my mind much. I figured a real Watcher would ignore me, since if the Watcher died I'd be outed as notWatcher anyway, so no reason to CC.

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#1672 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:24 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:22 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:10 pm


In case I wasn’t watcher and was baiting a kill and could myself he watched or saved?
Why weren't you worried about a real watcher counter claiming you?
And why would real watcher watch you?!
Blood from a stone here man

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#1673 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:29 pm

Anyway, I think the clears help this be narrowed down a lot.

Gun to my head, right now I'd say Balki, Lfischl, Damo, though Bozo and Rivera are in my PoE as well.

I just don't think bo is scum.

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#1674 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:37 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:29 pm
Anyway, I think the clears help this be narrowed down a lot.

Gun to my head, right now I'd say Balki, Lfischl, Damo, though Bozo and Rivera are in my PoE as well.

I just don't think bo is scum.
Why don’t you think about is scum?

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#1675 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:14 pm

Can someone make a coherent case for a specific scum pair?

Like, pick your top scum read, assume you’re right. Who now looks scummiest from interactions?

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#1676 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:19 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:37 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:29 pm
Anyway, I think the clears help this be narrowed down a lot.

Gun to my head, right now I'd say Balki, Lfischl, Damo, though Bozo and Rivera are in my PoE as well.

I just don't think bo is scum.
Why don’t you think about is scum?
Assuming a bo is missing there.

It's nothing super specific, but he's been playing to his town meta very much IMO

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#1677 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:24 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:03 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:55 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:51 pm


What were rereading, D1?

I think breaking a T vs. T tie is NAI. I remember considering at the end of M1023 that for lfischl and damo to be scum and Chaqa to be town, lfischl and damo would have both voted to break a T vs. T tie D1, which it turned out they did.
Bo did it 20 minutes to go though.
bo_sox hadn't posted for over 4 hours when he posted 23 minute before EOD. If bo_sox came back at that time, his choices would have been to stay off the wagons, break the T vs. T tie, or cause a 3 way tie. As mafia, there would be no reason to stay off the wagons since the top 2 were town.
As the top 2 were town I would say there was every reason to stay off as mafia and monitor the situation.

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#1678 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:25 pm

##vote Bozo

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#1679 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:34 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:25 pm
##vote Bozo
Why Bozo?

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#1680 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:37 pm

We can’t really do anything until Bo rejoins or is replaced.

Is there some rule about inactivity for some length of time triggering a sub?

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