MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

In full disclosure I’m probably still going to start by trying to hang snowy if I’m alive tomorrow, but I’m way less confident than before because I’m seeing ghug’s point about Byz not needing to be mafia. I think that slot has a decent chance of flipping mafia and would tell us a fair bit about D1, plus I would hate for snowy to get a total pass to coast.

Relatedly I am having a lot of difficulty processing Sabi and Neon… without dredging up previous fights, let’s simply say that my expectations for how townies should react to things do not seem calibrated to how they would react to things, and that my instinct screaming at me to hang them might be misplaced, and I haven’t worked out how to navigate that yet.

Darg has felt kind of “above the fray” to me, not in a sanctimonious way or anything, but that he’s managed not to comment in depth on a lot of the key events in the game and commit to positions. Not necessarily mafia indicative, but certainly where I might expect him to be as mafia.

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

[celaph]

I'm not fully caught up, but I should probably actually do my job instead of just reading the thread.

@Neon, when you went to bed before EoD1, did you intend to wake up before the deadline?

Your initial scumread of me was fine, though I think you're overstating my zealous in reading Byz. I then doubled my post count which you clearly noticed having responded to two of my posts though not my response to your scumread. You then proceeded to make no additional comments about me before heading to bed leaving your vote on me. You clearly didn't care if I died.

I can see you fitting in as a town who didn't have strong scumreads and was as happy with my wagon as any other, but it also doesn't feel like you were/are trying to resolve me. Why didn't you respond to my defense against your scumread? I see you now have me as "probably just town" though it's not clear where you are getting that from and feels like you are following the group wisdom.

[worcej]

In full disclosure I’m probably still going to start by trying to hang snowy if I’m alive tomorrow, but I’m way less confident than before because I’m seeing ghug’s point about Byz not needing to be mafia. I think that slot has a decent chance of flipping mafia and would tell us a fair bit about D1, plus I would hate for snowy to get a total pass to coast.

Relatedly I am having a lot of difficulty processing Sabi and Neon… without dredging up previous fights, let’s simply say that my expectations for how townies should react to things do not seem calibrated to how they would react to things, and that my instinct screaming at me to hang them might be misplaced, and I haven’t worked out how to navigate that yet.

Darg has felt kind of “above the fray” to me, not in a sanctimonious way or anything, but that he’s managed not to comment in depth on a lot of the key events in the game and commit to positions. Not necessarily mafia indicative, but certainly where I might expect him to be as mafia.

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Taking your list of opinions and utilizing them for my own gain here, but…

Neon > Darg > Sabi > Snobyz > rdr > ghug > Chaqa > bo

In terms of “who I would like to die tomorrow”

[President Eden]

In full disclosure I’m probably still going to start by trying to hang snowy if I’m alive tomorrow, but I’m way less confident than before because I’m seeing ghug’s point about Byz not needing to be mafia. I think that slot has a decent chance of flipping mafia and would tell us a fair bit about D1, plus I would hate for snowy to get a total pass to coast.

Relatedly I am having a lot of difficulty processing Sabi and Neon… without dredging up previous fights, let’s simply say that my expectations for how townies should react to things do not seem calibrated to how they would react to things, and that my instinct screaming at me to hang them might be misplaced, and I haven’t worked out how to navigate that yet.

Darg has felt kind of “above the fray” to me, not in a sanctimonious way or anything, but that he’s managed not to comment in depth on a lot of the key events in the game and commit to positions. Not necessarily mafia indicative, but certainly where I might expect him to be as mafia.

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

I can’t fault that approach too much, but I know you know from setup review that several night actions switch nametags with the target.

Uhhhhh—

No, really, I know you know.

Yea abou—

shhhhhh.

[Chaqa]

In full disclosure I’m probably still going to start by trying to hang snowy if I’m alive tomorrow, but I’m way less confident than before because I’m seeing ghug’s point about Byz not needing to be mafia. I think that slot has a decent chance of flipping mafia and would tell us a fair bit about D1, plus I would hate for snowy to get a total pass to coast.

Relatedly I am having a lot of difficulty processing Sabi and Neon… without dredging up previous fights, let’s simply say that my expectations for how townies should react to things do not seem calibrated to how they would react to things, and that my instinct screaming at me to hang them might be misplaced, and I haven’t worked out how to navigate that yet.

Darg has felt kind of “above the fray” to me, not in a sanctimonious way or anything, but that he’s managed not to comment in depth on a lot of the key events in the game and commit to positions. Not necessarily mafia indicative, but certainly where I might expect him to be as mafia.

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

I can’t fault that approach too much, but I know you know from setup review that several night actions switch nametags with the target.

Uhhhhh—

No, really, I know you know.

Yea abou—

shhhhhh.

Well yes, but who would swap nametags with me now? I've outsmarted them all snd am now basically a named townie that you lose your voting power if you kill.

[Rumi Tobari]

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Speaking of Chaqa, given that he's given me the vast majority of my posts +1s (I checked in my profile), I'm starting to wonder if he's actually serious about suspecting me or if it's just a meme at this point.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

Well, that kind of settles it. Also, does this mean that you are acknowledging that you knew what your nametag meant from the start but just were pretending you didn't? And I'd kind of like to draw attention to your use of the word immediately here.

I just peaked my nametag and it said I'm Rodney Farva

So did you peek your nametag from the start, or did you do it after EoD?

[worcej]

This game is going to send me to therapy

We do that here

[President Eden]

You know I feel way better about the flagrant vote bloc buddying thing now

And also silly for not putting it together sooner. But that’s ok

[celaph]

Wtf?

Wtf?

@rdr, what was this reaction in response to?

I assumed at the time that you disliked Pyxxy's vote, though the 8 seconds between his post and yours makes the timing there very tight so I'm not so sure.

[pyxxy]

Well yes, but who would swap nametags with me now? I've outsmarted them all snd am now basically a named townie that you lose your voting power if you kill.

He does it again, folks! Mech man to the rescue!

[worcej]

I'm not going to take the toxic bait lol

I don't have the mental capacity or the emotional bandwidth to give yall the reaction you want me to have.

I'm just sitting back and just watching willage!lol happen

It was 100% not a bait question - Jamie made a statement about your ability and I wanted to assess his overall opinion.

[worcej]

If I flip Town then who?

If i flip mafia then who?

Neon, celaph

[ghug]

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Speaking of Chaqa, given that he's given me the vast majority of my posts +1s (I checked in my profile), I'm starting to wonder if he's actually serious about suspecting me or if it's just a meme at this point.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

Well, that kind of settles it. Also, does this mean that you are acknowledging that you knew what your nametag meant from the start but just were pretending you didn't? And I'd kind of like to draw attention to your use of the word immediately here.

I just peaked my nametag and it said I'm Rodney Farva

So did you peek your nametag from the start, or did you do it after EoD?

Chaqa +1s every post to keep track of where he is.

[Rumi Tobari]

Chaqa +1s every post to keep track of where he is.

I'd still like some answers on when exactly he peeked.

[worcej]

This was as of last night, it probably needs updating but I gotta go. I will try to remember why people are where they are if you ask me

Solid Town: I’m realistically never voting these people.

• Bona, Rumi

Satisfactory Town: They’re not yet in the “never voting” category, but looking good so far to me.

• celaph, Chaqa, ghug, Jamie, worcej

Passing Town: They’re ahead of the suspects, and I have reason to townread them, but I’m still kinda wary because I can see reasons to scumread them too.

• Sabi, Neon, rivera, Vecna

Suspicious: I don’t feel I’ve got any clear reason to townread these guys. Given that I’ve got at least something for a lot of other people, that speaks volumes.

• bo, darg, pyxxy

Target Locked: They have to go… okay fine it’s one guy, whatever.

• snowy801

I swear all you ever do is list Bona in a ‘will not vote’ group

[Chaqa]

Bo looks good. Rivera has passed all the questions thrown at him, and has had a couple of decent insights, so he’s probably good too. Kind of leery at Chaqa’s lower investment level but nothing serious, just wary. ghug seems fine.

Speaking of Chaqa, given that he's given me the vast majority of my posts +1s (I checked in my profile), I'm starting to wonder if he's actually serious about suspecting me or if it's just a meme at this point.

Well, if you immediately peeked your card and saw you didn't have a vote, wouldn't you just spend the entire game memeing?

Why do you think I wanted to form a voting bloc? I've increased my voting power from 0 to 2/3 of a vote :)

Well, that kind of settles it. Also, does this mean that you are acknowledging that you knew what your nametag meant from the start but just were pretending you didn't? And I'd kind of like to draw attention to your use of the word immediately here.

I just peaked my nametag and it said I'm Rodney Farva

So did you peek your nametag from the start, or did you do it after EoD?

I will leave that post not +1'd in order to sow discord.

[Chaqa]

Chaqa +1s every post to keep track of where he is.

I'd still like some answers on when exactly he peeked.

Oh man, I hope I haven't peaked yet.

[President Eden]

This was as of last night, it probably needs updating but I gotta go. I will try to remember why people are where they are if you ask me

Solid Town: I’m realistically never voting these people.

• Bona, Rumi

Satisfactory Town: They’re not yet in the “never voting” category, but looking good so far to me.

• celaph, Chaqa, ghug, Jamie, worcej

Passing Town: They’re ahead of the suspects, and I have reason to townread them, but I’m still kinda wary because I can see reasons to scumread them too.

• Sabi, Neon, rivera, Vecna

Suspicious: I don’t feel I’ve got any clear reason to townread these guys. Given that I’ve got at least something for a lot of other people, that speaks volumes.

• bo, darg, pyxxy

Target Locked: They have to go… okay fine it’s one guy, whatever.

• snowy801

I swear all you ever do is list Bona in a ‘will not vote’ group

I mean I’m batting a thousand so far…

But yea I do kinda have to admit that he hasn’t had the zeal this night phase that I’m used to. And I’m pretty sure I caught him booting up HOI4 while I was home for lunch, so it’s not school yet.

[worcej]

Anyway I really do hate that we chat during the night. I used to like it before I tried out other sites. I dunno I have been converted. Night time should be used to have breaking from the game and to reflect on it.

I think this is why we have the whole midgame apathy issue because no one takes a mental break from the game.

Just my two cents.

I also wish we adhered to this but open night chat is kinda the webDiplo quirk for mafia

[ghug]

Chaqa +1s every post to keep track of where he is.

I'd still like some answers on when exactly he peeked.

Oh man, I hope I haven't peaked yet.

Me too, for your sake.