MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Rumi Tobari]

We only have Sabi’s word to go on here. Are we allowed to lie about our nametags?

Wait. DON’T ANSWER THIS. I RETRACT MY QUESTION. If the answer to this is “yes”, and nobody’s considered it as a possibility. That means scum can peek and lie about their nametags.

I think? Am I overreading into this or did I accidentally introduce a horrible thing into the game with ym quesiton.

Oh no it’s definitely been considered that you could lie.

I don’t think that the no voter and especially not the double voter should claim because town doesn’t really need this info and mafia definitely doesn’t

*headdesk*
Too late. Chaqa already claimed his nametag. The knowledge of what it means is in the rules doc. And logic tells us who the people with double are x.x

I fucked up. I'm sorry. I'ts lal my fault

[President Eden]

chaqa.

my brother in… well not christ but… anyway.

who in the hell is going to think to coach rumi to pretend not to know whether you can lie about a nametag so that she can come back and realize her own answer?

aside from how convoluted that is to begin with, what does that even accomplish? were it an act, anyone sold by it doesn’t need more theatrics, and anyone not buying it won’t be persuaded.

[President Eden]

Wait. DON’T ANSWER THIS. I RETRACT MY QUESTION. If the answer to this is “yes”, and nobody’s considered it as a possibility. That means scum can peek and lie about their nametags.

I think? Am I overreading into this or did I accidentally introduce a horrible thing into the game with ym quesiton.

Oh no it’s definitely been considered that you could lie.

I don’t think that the no voter and especially not the double voter should claim because town doesn’t really need this info and mafia definitely doesn’t

*headdesk*
Too late. Chaqa already claimed his nametag. The knowledge of what it means is in the rules doc. And logic tells us who the people with double are x.x

I fucked up. I’m sorry. I’ts lal my fault

it’s fine, chaqa could be lying about being the no voter after all

[Rumi Tobari]

it’s fine, chaqa could be lying about being the no voter after all

... oh.

[Chaqa]

chaqa.

my brother in… well not christ but… anyway.

who in the hell is going to think to coach rumi to pretend not to know whether you can lie about a nametag so that she can come back and realize her own answer?

aside from how convoluted that is to begin with, what does that even accomplish? were it an act, anyone sold by it doesn’t need more theatrics, and anyone not buying it won’t be persuaded.

Well, I would. And I would also do this while going after Rumi and then explain it to you like this. I'm not, but if I were willing to, I'm sure someone else might be.

[Jamiet99uk]

It clears my vote power.

It may do that, but it might also make you vulnerable to other things.

I rather yall use my power tomorrow. Make me top wagon and have scum vote as second highest. Ezpz

What makes you assume you will be wearing the same nametag tomorrow?

[pyxxy]

##VOTE Jammies

Open to other wagons to shake things up but I'm not into the current ones really.

##VOTE damo

"but I'm not into the current ones really"

bruh

Not to mention you were on damo supposedly reluctantly? So you switched off a wagon you didn't want to be on, to vote Sabi instead...to tie things up with 5 minutes to go?

It doesn't make any sense, dude. If it was so hard for you to vote damo or Byz in the first place, just stay off them. Don't do this weird side quest of voting Sabi to deliberately cause a tie.

Then damo flips town and you don't show any guilt, just a "RIP damo" and then immediately trying to rush past your own EOD behavior and put the spotlight on me.

And this is all after I talked about you shading me and how I wanted to stick on voting for you for my own validation.

[ghug]

Those were both moves to avoid a tie...

Why did you try to vote for the losing wagon in the final seconds?

After you purposely tied at -00:05?

##VOTE besh

Forcing Vecna to try and outguess you at the end?

##VOTE Byz

##vote Damo666

##vote damo then

##vote Byz

better not mess about

When I refreshed the bot before posting this, it showed a tie

not risking a tie i hold my vote on ghug

I thought Vecna had tied it so I tried to avoid the tie, same as your claim. I guess we're just exactly the same, huh?

Vecna's re-re-flip didn't register in the bot in those ~10 seconds after I posted -> refreshing

##vote damo

ffs ghug

ffs ghug

If you want to blame someone for trying to tie, look in the mirror.

Yes, I tied it with five minutes left, that's been explained, and it's entirely different than doing it in the final seconds.

It's pretty fucking rich to say I was forcing Vecna to outguess me when he was the one who tied it both times.

Nobody just blatantly ties a final vote on purpose, because that's a recipe for disaster. Vecna and I pretty clearly demonstrated our motivations, whereas you sat around on a vanity wagon until trying to sneak in a vote in the final seconds. You might have legitimately been slow on the refresh, but your behavior also looks exactly like what scum trying to increase the chances of a tie would look like.

[President Eden]

It may do that, but it might also make you vulnerable to other things.

I rather yall use my power tomorrow. Make me top wagon and have scum vote as second highest. Ezpz

What makes you assume you will be wearing the same nametag tomorrow?

this guy reads setups

[Rumi Tobari]

chaqa.

my brother in… well not christ but… anyway.

who in the hell is going to think to coach rumi to pretend not to know whether you can lie about a nametag so that she can come back and realize her own answer?

aside from how convoluted that is to begin with, what does that even accomplish? were it an act, anyone sold by it doesn’t need more theatrics, and anyone not buying it won’t be persuaded.

Well, I would. And I would also do this while going after Rumi and then explain it to you like this. I'm not, but if I were willing to, I'm sure someone else might be.

This inception-tier lying is too much stress for me to pull off. (and lowkey is like shit my ex did to me) If this is what it takes to be scum I'll withdraw any game I roll scum instantly and let the backup take over.

[ghug]

##VOTE Jammies

Open to other wagons to shake things up but I'm not into the current ones really.

##VOTE damo

"but I'm not into the current ones really"

bruh

Not to mention you were on damo supposedly reluctantly? So you switched off a wagon you didn't want to be on, to vote Sabi instead...to tie things up with 5 minutes to go?

It doesn't make any sense, dude. If it was so hard for you to vote damo or Byz in the first place, just stay off them. Don't do this weird side quest of voting Sabi to deliberately cause a tie.

Then damo flips town and you don't show any guilt, just a "RIP damo" and then immediately trying to rush past your own EOD behavior and put the spotlight on me.

And this is all after I talked about you shading me and how I wanted to stick on voting for you for my own validation.

Here, lemme help you: my first vote for damo also caused a tie.

[BesharamSabi]

It may do that, but it might also make you vulnerable to other things.

I rather yall use my power tomorrow. Make me top wagon and have scum vote as second highest. Ezpz

What makes you assume you will be wearing the same nametag tomorrow?

I still die and you know my nametag is out there.

[BesharamSabi]

Aren't nametags only switched at night kills?

[pyxxy]

I just peaked my nametag and it said I'm Rodney Farva

I can't tell if you're kidding or not? pls confirm

[Rumi Tobari]

Aren't nametags only switched at night kills?

According to the setup, its all visits apparently.

[ghug]

I rather yall use my power tomorrow. Make me top wagon and have scum vote as second highest. Ezpz

What makes you assume you will be wearing the same nametag tomorrow?

I still die and you know my nametag is out there.

If you're town, that's now really a worthwhile trade.

Either you're scum pulling shit or you're playing against your wincon. Either way, I propose we ignore it.

[BesharamSabi]

Aren't nametags only switched at night kills?

According to the setup, its all visits apparently.

Oh

[Rumi Tobari]

What makes you assume you will be wearing the same nametag tomorrow?

I still die and you know my nametag is out there.

If you're town, that's now really a worthwhile trade.

Either you're scum pulling shit or you're playing against your wincon. Either way, I propose we ignore it.

I don't know whether to be more concerned about this or Chaqa's alleged tag.

[Jamiet99uk]

chaqa.

my brother in… well not christ but… anyway.

who in the hell is going to think to coach rumi to pretend not to know whether you can lie about a nametag so that she can come back and realize her own answer?

aside from how convoluted that is to begin with, what does that even accomplish? were it an act, anyone sold by it doesn’t need more theatrics, and anyone not buying it won’t be persuaded.

Well, I would. And I would also do this while going after Rumi and then explain it to you like this. I'm not, but if I were willing to, I'm sure someone else might be.

This inception-tier lying is too much stress for me to pull off. (and lowkey is like shit my ex did to me) If this is what it takes to be scum I'll withdraw any game I roll scum instantly and let the backup take over.

Do not do that.

If you sign up for the game, you owe it to *all* the other players to at least attempt to win for your team, whichever team it is.

[Rumi Tobari]

Well, I would. And I would also do this while going after Rumi and then explain it to you like this. I'm not, but if I were willing to, I'm sure someone else might be.

This inception-tier lying is too much stress for me to pull off. (and lowkey is like shit my ex did to me) If this is what it takes to be scum I'll withdraw any game I roll scum instantly and let the backup take over.

Do not do that.

If you sign up for the game, you owe it to *all* the other players to at least attempt to win for your team, whichever team it is.

This much lying is too much stress for my mental health. If that's expected for scum, I really don't think I am capable of playing that role.