M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

to take a stab at an actual ranking or priority list, from top town on down…

1. Bona
2. Sabi
3. brain

—these are 100% unimpeachable town IMO—

4. Demon
5. Boat
6. Lamp

Demon and Boat have brought their A-game during the night phase. think both of them would have coasted way harder as mafia, even despite the pressure put on them D1. they’d be planning how to attack the thread all N1 and then come out with their play D2 instead of potentially spewing like 3-4 people town by posting as they have tonight.

Lamp looks solvey too but is newer so I have lower confidence, as we’ve never seen a Lamp mafiasided game.

7. Chaqa
8. snowy
9. ghug

pretty ok with y’all being town but you’re all crafty as sin and even I’m not cocky enough to feel I went 9/9 here. most likely place where I have blind spots.

[DemonRHK]

I forgot to welcome all of the players who have come here as a result of the vast networking durga has done over the years. I too was recruited to forum mafia in 2015 by durga and yoyoyozo. We all began playing epic mafia against one another and I became very addicted to this game.

A thank you to durga for everyone you have brought into this community and these games. And of course good luck have fun

Fuckin yoyo. y2k, moscow, guak, squigs. warden, meme, vash...

Man that brings back memories.

[BesharamSabi]

If I die kill brainbimb

Actual scumleans: Maniac, Chaqa, bozo, and maybe celaph

[Chaqa]

not killing these people tomorrow and maybe not ever.

Sabi
snowy
brain
Bona
Chaqa
Boat
ghug
Lamp
Demon

I know I haven’t explained all these yet and I may not get time to.

I would strongly caution against including ghug in that list.

[DemonRHK]

not killing these people tomorrow and maybe not ever.

Sabi
snowy
brain
Bona
Chaqa
Boat
ghug
Lamp
Demon

I know I haven’t explained all these yet and I may not get time to.

Be as brave as Eden is in his reads.

I'm iffy on like ha;f this list, but you go king.

[Chaqa]

not killing these people tomorrow and maybe not ever.

Sabi
snowy
brain
Bona
Chaqa
Boat
ghug
Lamp
Demon

I know I haven’t explained all these yet and I may not get time to.

You also need to add a "because" after all of these or else no one will care

[President Eden]

not killing these people tomorrow and maybe not ever.

Sabi
snowy
brain
Bona
Chaqa
Boat
ghug
Lamp
Demon

I know I haven’t explained all these yet and I may not get time to.

You also need to add a "because" after all of these or else no one will care

nah, they’ll care because I’m great

[ghug]

to take a stab at an actual ranking or priority list, from top town on down…

1. Bona
2. Sabi
3. brain

—these are 100% unimpeachable town IMO—

4. Demon
5. Boat
6. Lamp

Demon and Boat have brought their A-game during the night phase. think both of them would have coasted way harder as mafia, even despite the pressure put on them D1. they’d be planning how to attack the thread all N1 and then come out with their play D2 instead of potentially spewing like 3-4 people town by posting as they have tonight.

Lamp looks solvey too but is newer so I have lower confidence, as we’ve never seen a Lamp mafiasided game.

7. Chaqa
8. snowy
9. ghug

pretty ok with y’all being town but you’re all crafty as sin and even I’m not cocky enough to feel I went 9/9 here. most likely place where I have blind spots.

What is Bona doing at the top?

[President Eden]

to take a stab at an actual ranking or priority list, from top town on down…

1. Bona
2. Sabi
3. brain

—these are 100% unimpeachable town IMO—

4. Demon
5. Boat
6. Lamp

Demon and Boat have brought their A-game during the night phase. think both of them would have coasted way harder as mafia, even despite the pressure put on them D1. they’d be planning how to attack the thread all N1 and then come out with their play D2 instead of potentially spewing like 3-4 people town by posting as they have tonight.

Lamp looks solvey too but is newer so I have lower confidence, as we’ve never seen a Lamp mafiasided game.

7. Chaqa
8. snowy
9. ghug

pretty ok with y’all being town but you’re all crafty as sin and even I’m not cocky enough to feel I went 9/9 here. most likely place where I have blind spots.

What is Bona doing at the top?

being super alpha giga Chad town

[BesharamSabi]

My towncore:

Bona
Boatman
Ghug

Null (due to something is off otherwise they would be in my towncore) :
Eden
Demon
Snowy

Null due to inactivity:
Worcej
Rdr

Null just because:
Pyxxy
Damo
Brainbomb
Jamiet

Null (due to something is good otherwise they would be in scum core):
Blamp

[BesharamSabi]

On topic of worcej,,,,, where is he doing night. For someone that subbed into this game you would think he would be active during night and try to get a feel of the game or something.

Weird.

[President Eden]

On topic of worcej,,,,, where is he doing night. For someone that subbed into this game you would think he would be active during night and try to get a feel of the game or something.

Weird.

he did more or less state that he wasn’t actually available when he got subbed in. presumably that carries over into the workday.

but he obviously needs to get something going this coming day phase too

[Jamiet99uk]

On topic of worcej,,,,, where is he doing night. For someone that subbed into this game you would think he would be active during night and try to get a feel of the game or something.

Weird.

He's working a double shift at the box factory.

[pyxxy]

I forgot to welcome all of the players who have come here as a result of the vast networking durga has done over the years. I too was recruited to forum mafia in 2015 by durga and yoyoyozo. We all began playing epic mafia against one another and I became very addicted to this game.

A thank you to durga for everyone you have brought into this community and these games. And of course good luck have fun

Praise be onto Durga :prayhandsemoji:

[pyxxy]

So I got replys first or second hand which is fine.

celaph's answer being "AFK, Tough shit" roughly is annoying at best and a work at worst.

Bozo rejecting reality on a last second switch is a halfhearted response, you should know who is on the wagon you are going to.

TFB's answer is at least logical, alothough...
@TFB what is your read on Chaqa currently? is he still top 2 scum (If I read your reads right, I was the other)

Maniac's reply, secondhand at that, does not fly with me.

I don’t see that I’ve been inconsistent at all.

27 mins to go, I have a choice between TFB, Celaph, Chaqa and Kak. I’m town reading Celaph and Chaqa’s only -ve point is he wanted Celaph dead but that’s not really alignment indicative. So I was left choosing TFB over Kak, (who I’d already said I wouldn’t vote for easily). So TFB was best of bad choices.

Few minutes to go the two lead wagons were Celaph and Kak. As I town read Celaph, Kak was the only other choice unless someone got flash wagoned.

Your vote at EoD-9, took it from 5-5-4 with TFB as the 4 to 6-5-3.

YOU are the one that started killing your own wagon.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/m73/m73_d2.html

This link still works for Day 2 if people wanted to double check this.

It looks like Maniac voted at EOD-3 minutes, not 9. I think this lends a little more credibility to Maniac's explanation, although I'm really buying into TFB's analysis of the situation in his quotes of your (Demon's) findings.

[ghug]

I don't have as many townreads as I'd like at this point. Sabi seems like town. I'm inclined to townread Eden, which is making me scumread him. I wanted to townread Chaqa for the "because" thing, but if Eden told him to do that before the game, maybe he felt like he had to. He sits in a pool with brain, RHK, Jamie, celaph, snowy of people who seem like their town selves but haven't done anything that's impossible to fake.

Below them are the true nulls: rd, pyxxy, worcej, Bona damo, Maniac. Boat could maybe be in this box too but I'm more inclined to kill him because his wagon's death is sketch. Bozo and lamp also seem like decent killing options. I think that's everyone?

[Bonatogether]

I'm going to call bullshit on number one.

I'm at work so I don't have time to go look at more than your last four games (will read up more during lunch) but here is what I found so far:

M72: not once (VT)

M70: (not VT)

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 81#p260781

M68: (not VT)

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 71#p244071

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 21#p244121

M67: (VT) not once

So you're proof is that one game I did it as Cop and the other I did it as scum? lmao

10/10 gg wp

The pattern is you do this when you are not VT.

I doubt you are a town or. This plus the weird Maniac x Chaqa stuff as well as your EOD behavior is making me scum lean you.

if the pattern is not-vt AND legit, then this is open PR hunting. don't do it

[President Eden]

if I die don’t forget the 8 people I townread + ghug. ghug is the one I’m most likely wrong about because I really want to believe this is the game we are both town and on the same page which means I am most likely to have blinders on to warning signs. still on balance think ghug is town.

feel reasonably good that celaph is mafia. if he is then I think Maniac and bozo are good shots. the fourth is still a mystery, I’m sticking with Jamie because I want to be able to say I called it but the truth is that it could be any one of a half dozen people or so easily.

good luck team. hope to see you on the other side. o7

[Bonatogether]

I do worry that this is the first game where I town read Bona and not my usual null read of him.

Either I have gotten better at reading him or something is different about him this game.

Leaning towards the former.

you're worse at reading me
im a scummy mafia member

[Bonatogether]

I do worry that this is the first game where I town read Bona and not my usual null read of him.

Either I have gotten better at reading him or something is different about him this game.

Leaning towards the former.

he’s playing literal orders of magnitude better this game than he has in his past few town games. that’s what changed.

he likely just needed a bit of paternal structure and encouragement

i didnt shitpost all day but i'll get back to that