M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

2. I've been pushing HR all game. I'm happy for him to die today.

Then I dare you to vote for him at once.

I like ties.

No one likes ties. They’re a pain and feel constricting at the neck.

[Chaqa]

Possibility:

Ghug knew that Maniac was fake claiming cop, and knew in advance that Maniac intended to declare an inno scan on him for whatever reason. This would only be possible if Ghug and Maniac were the remaining scum.

Thoughts?

If this is the case, it should come out eventually

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

[Donny Dude]

3. What do you mean by "take credit" exactly? Thinking that Maniac had an inno scan on me was entirely reasonable given the context. Not knowing things isn't scummy.

You only made explicit reference to it after DemonRHK flipped.

Maniac only made a clear statement that he had you as an inno scan 1 minute before EoN4. You now appear to remember it as if he'd declared an inno scan on you for a period of time before this, while his claim was still believed (by some people). This is suspicious.

Many of us went back and looked at the posts he had directed us to when he claimed. The only post that looked like crumbing an inno was this one:

Ghug has done that thing that qualifies him as Town with a capital T.

This was discussed at length before RHK died.

that post about ghug being town seems pretty ballsy for a maniac + ghug scumteam. I think it relates to a scum maniac knowing ghug is town or town maniac believing that. Or buddying, but that really seem to fit with maniac.

[ghug]

Possibility:

Ghug knew that Maniac was fake claiming cop, and knew in advance that Maniac intended to declare an inno scan on him for whatever reason. This would only be possible if Ghug and Maniac were the remaining scum.

Thoughts?

If this is the case, it should come out eventually

I strongly dislike this answer.

A, it's a dumb argument, since there was suspicion I was his inno well in advance of when he actually said it. B, if your stated position is that you don't want to kill me or Maniac, then you don't intend for it to come out eventually.

[Jamiet99uk]

1. You claim I scumread you every game, so it follows that you shouldn't find this scummy.

To reflect your own logic back at you:

You claim I am scum every fucking game, again and again and again and again, so it follows that you shouldn't find everything I do scummy.

And yet.

Maybe you're just a scummy person.

I'm a nice guy with lots of great friends.

I can be a bit of a dick on here, though, at times.

[Jamiet99uk]

You only made explicit reference to it after DemonRHK flipped.

Maniac only made a clear statement that he had you as an inno scan 1 minute before EoN4. You now appear to remember it as if he'd declared an inno scan on you for a period of time before this, while his claim was still believed (by some people). This is suspicious.

Many of us went back and looked at the posts he had directed us to when he claimed. The only post that looked like crumbing an inno was this one:

Ghug has done that thing that qualifies him as Town with a capital T.

This was discussed at length before RHK died.

that post about ghug being town seems pretty ballsy for a maniac + ghug scumteam. I think it relates to a scum maniac knowing ghug is town or town maniac believing that. Or buddying, but that really seem to fit with maniac.

If there's two things Maniac has, it's balls.

[Jamiet99uk]

Possibility:

Ghug knew that Maniac was fake claiming cop, and knew in advance that Maniac intended to declare an inno scan on him for whatever reason. This would only be possible if Ghug and Maniac were the remaining scum.

Thoughts?

If this is the case, it should come out eventually

I strongly dislike this answer.

A, it's a dumb argument, since there was suspicion I was his inno well in advance of when he actually said it. B, if your stated position is that you don't want to kill me or Maniac, then you don't intend for it to come out eventually.

I actually strongly agree with Ghug in terms of point (B) here.

[Donny Dude]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

for context: 2. There's a good possibility that he is scum with HR, or with Maniac, as per Damo's analysis, and now HR is both absent and a serious wagon he seems suddenly very anxious to try to make me the counterwagon to HR.

Sure, my point was does a ghug hr scumteam makes sense with the ghug vote for hr on d3. Since he admits to kgray that durga seemed scummy and voted for hr then.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

for context: 2. There's a good possibility that he is scum with HR, or with Maniac, as per Damo's analysis, and now HR is both absent and a serious wagon he seems suddenly very anxious to try to make me the counterwagon to HR.

Sure, my point was does a ghug hr scumteam makes sense with the ghug vote for hr on d3. Since he admits to kgray that durga seemed scummy and voted for hr then.

Ok good question.

I guess in this context, that voting behaviour from Ghug would be super ballsy if he and HR are both scum, and it suggests that only one of them is.

Ghug's reluctance to vote HR today is bothering me somewhat, but nonetheless you've made a valid point, Donald.

[Chaqa]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

Why are you like this

Don’t dodge his question

[Chaqa]

Possibility:

Ghug knew that Maniac was fake claiming cop, and knew in advance that Maniac intended to declare an inno scan on him for whatever reason. This would only be possible if Ghug and Maniac were the remaining scum.

Thoughts?

If this is the case, it should come out eventually

I strongly dislike this answer.

A, it's a dumb argument, since there was suspicion I was his inno well in advance of when he actually said it. B, if your stated position is that you don't want to kill me or Maniac, then you don't intend for it to come out eventually.

What?

I’m not advocating to kill one of you, I’m saying that the answer should probably come out naturally in due course just by the game progressing

[ghug]

To reflect your own logic back at you:

You claim I am scum every fucking game, again and again and again and again, so it follows that you shouldn't find everything I do scummy.

And yet.

Maybe you're just a scummy person.

I'm a nice guy with lots of great friends.

I can be a bit of a dick on here, though, at times.

Same

[ghug]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

for context: 2. There's a good possibility that he is scum with HR, or with Maniac, as per Damo's analysis, and now HR is both absent and a serious wagon he seems suddenly very anxious to try to make me the counterwagon to HR.

Sure, my point was does a ghug hr scumteam makes sense with the ghug vote for hr on d3. Since he admits to kgray that durga seemed scummy and voted for hr then.

I was one of the early Durga voters and then moved off because runaway wagons are bad for information.

[Donny Dude]

You only made explicit reference to it after DemonRHK flipped.

Maniac only made a clear statement that he had you as an inno scan 1 minute before EoN4. You now appear to remember it as if he'd declared an inno scan on you for a period of time before this, while his claim was still believed (by some people). This is suspicious.

Many of us went back and looked at the posts he had directed us to when he claimed. The only post that looked like crumbing an inno was this one:

Ghug has done that thing that qualifies him as Town with a capital T.

This was discussed at length before RHK died.

that post about ghug being town seems pretty ballsy for a maniac + ghug scumteam. I think it relates to a scum maniac knowing ghug is town or town maniac believing that. Or buddying, but that really seem to fit with maniac.

that really does not seem to fit with maniac

[ghug]

If this is the case, it should come out eventually

I strongly dislike this answer.

A, it's a dumb argument, since there was suspicion I was his inno well in advance of when he actually said it. B, if your stated position is that you don't want to kill me or Maniac, then you don't intend for it to come out eventually.

What?

I’m not advocating to kill one of you, I’m saying that the answer should probably come out naturally in due course just by the game progressing

I'm saying if it were true, you'd be advocating for town to play in a way where it doesn't come out until you (Chaqa) lose.

[Donny Dude]

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

for context: 2. There's a good possibility that he is scum with HR, or with Maniac, as per Damo's analysis, and now HR is both absent and a serious wagon he seems suddenly very anxious to try to make me the counterwagon to HR.

Sure, my point was does a ghug hr scumteam makes sense with the ghug vote for hr on d3. Since he admits to kgray that durga seemed scummy and voted for hr then.

I was one of the early Durga voters and then moved off because runaway wagons are bad for information.

True, but also if you and hr were together, there would be no reason to move onto hr at that point and lose towncred by hopping on back onto durga later.

[Chaqa]

I strongly dislike this answer.

A, it's a dumb argument, since there was suspicion I was his inno well in advance of when he actually said it. B, if your stated position is that you don't want to kill me or Maniac, then you don't intend for it to come out eventually.

What?

I’m not advocating to kill one of you, I’m saying that the answer should probably come out naturally in due course just by the game progressing

I'm saying if it were true, you'd be advocating for town to play in a way where it doesn't come out until you (Chaqa) lose.

I don't follow, but I don't think a ghug-Maniac team is at all a remote possibility anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, Does scum ghug vote for fellow scum hr on d3 with the end result being durga is scum?

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

Why are you like this

Don’t dodge his question

Too slow, Ghug, I already did.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is a rather oddly-phrased question.

Durga's alignment was not caused by Ghug's vote. It was handed out by the GM at the start of the game.

Could you re-phrase your query?

for context: 2. There's a good possibility that he is scum with HR, or with Maniac, as per Damo's analysis, and now HR is both absent and a serious wagon he seems suddenly very anxious to try to make me the counterwagon to HR.

Sure, my point was does a ghug hr scumteam makes sense with the ghug vote for hr on d3. Since he admits to kgray that durga seemed scummy and voted for hr then.

I was one of the early Durga voters and then moved off because runaway wagons are bad for information.

Then why did you move back when the wagon was even more runaway?