M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2201 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:20 am

I think a tfb wagon also makes sense. I feel like his game so far has been agree with Jamie over something stupid, push that, watch Flum get killed despite thinking he;'s town (?), and then disappearing
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#2202 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:21 am

I'm willing to wait on RHK but he feels very observer as opposed to player atm
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#2203 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:22 am

and chaqa can eff off and stop tunneling me just because he doesn't like me
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#2204 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:23 am

Oh, also willing to vote Vecna until he says something remotely smart or contributes in a meaningful way
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#2205 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:23 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:14 am

I addressed it very directly?
You mean this?
ghug wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:13 am
Chaqa feels earnest here. I don't think we can blindly clear him on the GM communication, because he could have confirmed with Tom that I wasn't accidentally roleblocked if he were scum, but I'm leaning town. Scum Chaqa also really hates holding rbs, so I don't think he'd be that inclined to claim it for himself.
Yes and no; I suppose I was looking for others reacting as strongly as myself. But you aren't blindly following, unlike the ~7 or so other people who posted after your post. Plus I already town-read you for fake claiming.

I also hate that he brought Tom into it. I know it doesn't go against rule 4 by the way its written, but there was no need. Its too easy a way to add legitimacy.
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#2206 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 am

it kinda does go against rule 4 and it's trashy that he brought in what the GM dm'd him when he's literally on the fucking council and should know better
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#2207 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am

Durga wrote:
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Hi I've watched like 5 hours of tennis today and now I'm feeling ill
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#2208 Post by BusinessLamp » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am

Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 am
it kinda does go against rule 4 and it's trashy that he brought in what the GM dm'd him when he's literally on the fucking council and should know better
he wasnt invited to my council tho

sorry i'll read now

also is the meta to claim when you're roleblocked? i thought that initial ghug post was a joke lol
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#2209 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am

also is the meta to claim when you're roleblocked? i thought that initial ghug post was a joke lol
At least in games I've played someone will always claim RB, until town tells them to shut the hell up.
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#2210 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 am
it kinda does go against rule 4 and it's trashy that he brought in what the GM dm'd him when he's literally on the fucking council and should know better
Yeah it was pretty icky
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#2211 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 am
it kinda does go against rule 4 and it's trashy that he brought in what the GM dm'd him when he's literally on the fucking council and should know better
he wasnt invited to my council tho

sorry i'll read now

also is the meta to claim when you're roleblocked? i thought that initial ghug post was a joke lol
yeah you should claim if you're roleblocked especially in such a vanilla set up
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#2212 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:08 am
damo666 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:51 am
The NK probably implies one of my supposed towncore is scum.

@ghug silly reaction test

Chaqa no longer scum suspect

@Demo you just want to look at total wordcount as a metric

@Jamie from what pov and at what stage?

Basically 1 - ((PlayerCount-Bcount)C5/PlayercountC5)
I hate this post.

Damo, how can it be a silly reaction test if you now no longer suspect Chaqa of being scum? Would you have felt the same way if Chaqa claimed and nobody counter-claimed?

Also while I understand the interaction between Chaqa and ghug can be convincing, we cannot rule out that scum RB'd DeathLlama. There's only two PRs, and if they thought DL was one, it's a 50/50 chance its Doc. If I was scum I'd be roleblocking my kill every night. Why is nobody else even mentioning this possibility?
Bullshit. Roleblocking the kill is such a dumb play when there’s multiple PRs out there, I know you’re better than that.

##Vote goldfinger

Throw him out the airlock
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#2213 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am

also is the meta to claim when you're roleblocked? i thought that initial ghug post was a joke lol
At least in games I've played someone will always claim RB, until town tells them to shut the hell up.
Why would town tell them to shut the hell up? It's definitely the meta to claim rb.
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#2214 Post by BobMcBob » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 am

Maniac wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:57 am
kgray wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:24 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:19 am

Out of interest, what do you think about Flum's post there?
it literally does not matter, why are you asking her this now?
If Kgray is scum this very small and seemingly insignificant post will change the way we play mafia FOREVER. I can’t explain now or really scum read Kgray for it because the jury is still out but someone please remind me about it at EOG.

Oh and Bob is still scum ##vote Bob
This is as lazy as it was yesterday. Maniac, start getting some original ideas or any thoughts on anythingother than that I'm supposedly scum. Regardless I read this as probably scum Maniac because it's a vote on town that looks reasonable and can be passed off later as lurking. I doubt town Maniac would be so intentionally useless.
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#2215 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 am

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:08 am
damo666 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:51 am
The NK probably implies one of my supposed towncore is scum.

@ghug silly reaction test

Chaqa no longer scum suspect

@Demo you just want to look at total wordcount as a metric

@Jamie from what pov and at what stage?

Basically 1 - ((PlayerCount-Bcount)C5/PlayercountC5)
I hate this post.

Damo, how can it be a silly reaction test if you now no longer suspect Chaqa of being scum? Would you have felt the same way if Chaqa claimed and nobody counter-claimed?

Also while I understand the interaction between Chaqa and ghug can be convincing, we cannot rule out that scum RB'd DeathLlama. There's only two PRs, and if they thought DL was one, it's a 50/50 chance its Doc. If I was scum I'd be roleblocking my kill every night. Why is nobody else even mentioning this possibility?
Bullshit. Roleblocking the kill is such a dumb play when there’s multiple PRs out there, I know you’re better than that.

##Vote goldfinger

Throw him out the airlock
Not everyone agrees with you on this.
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#2216 Post by celaph » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:19 am
Also I would like everyone on my wagon at the end of the day (except maniac) to explain why. I don't care if you have stated a case on me already, please state it again anyway. Not that I think that'll be a problem.
With two exceptions (your reads list the night before EoD and your Bozo read), I think you talked a lot without saying much. I didn't like the way you framed conversations at times. And I wanted an alternative to flum letting his train run him out of the game.
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#2217 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 am

Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:22 am
and chaqa can eff off and stop tunneling me just because he doesn't like me
You sure do love putting words in my mouth
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#2218 Post by Durga » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 am

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:22 am
and chaqa can eff off and stop tunneling me just because he doesn't like me
You sure do love putting words in my mouth
its fairly obvious
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#2219 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:37 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 am
it kinda does go against rule 4 and it's trashy that he brought in what the GM dm'd him when he's literally on the fucking council and should know better
Yeah it was pretty icky
TBH I honestly didn’t know if I had received the PM correctly. I didn’t think you were scum so I assumed there had been a mixup and both of us had been told we were roleblocked.

I did consider you were reaction testing, but it didn’t seem to me like it made any sense and there wasn’t info to be gained from it, so I jumped to a GM mixup. I guess I should have waited for some confirmation, but I had reason to think I was correct in my view.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2220 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:38 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:30 am

also is the meta to claim when you're roleblocked? i thought that initial ghug post was a joke lol
At least in games I've played someone will always claim RB, until town tells them to shut the hell up.
Why would town tell them to shut the hell up? It's definitely the meta to claim rb.
Note 1) I distinctly remember a discussion in the mid-late phases of one game where town was debating not revealing if roleblocks were successful due to info it might reveal on PR actions. 2) I haven't played in literal years, so don't know current meta
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