MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[bozotheclown]

All this flip flopping in his reads isn't giving me town vibes from brainbomb. I don't remember any town in my four games being the erratic in their reads.

Like how do you explain that.

He was fine with damo yesterday but now he's scum.

He thought bozo was scum yesterday but now he's town.

What is going on?

I think there are 2 possibilities. One, brainbomb is trying to solve the game using a series of reaction tests as he often does as town. Or, two, he is scum who is trying to get anyone other than him killed.

[bozotheclown]

Also the claim for role blocked?

Has anyone else claimed role block so far this game?

No one else has claimed being roleblocked. The roleblocker was NKed N2, and it is common for the mafia to RB their NK N1 when there is a doctor in case they hit the doctor who is self saving.

[bozotheclown]

Who was role blocked night one?

Since no one claimed it, probably Durga.

[brainbomb]

oh damo

wow that did fall apart quick

we'll look at him tomorrow I guess

snowy wanted to kill damo, ghug or tom day 2
he actually got a damo wagon going briefly before ghug moved to tom and gets snowy to join

then snowy dies that night

seems pretty obvious the ezics killed snowy for more than just his ghug read. snowy wasnt really scumreading bozo d2 at all and also wasnt scumreading sabi

[brainbomb]

My current assessment of scum possibilities are

TFB
Sabi
bozo
Macca
damo

In that order, probably (bottom scummiest)

meme and ghug arent even on here n2 so whoever ezics had on that list is the snowy shooter.

[bozotheclown]

when I supplied my reasoning why faking a rb wouldnt work in this setup as scum you accepted my logic instantly damo and unvoted me. at the time lfischl was our only claimed pr and if I was scum faking a rb I wouldve been confusing the kalech team into not only thinking I maybe was doc but that I also might just be opposing scum. from ezic forger pov thats tons of unecessary exposure with no actual gain on anything

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!


Well then it's Bozo Sabi.

Bozo has gone very quiet.

I've lost confidence now.

I haven't been online.

[brainbomb]

N2 scenario where sabi is an ezic and sees snowy list them as scum at the top of a five person list

it seems least likely that sabi would prioritize maf to need to fearkill snowy n2 to preserve sabi

so that leaves bozo who snowy was off and on with. he says bozo maybe was scum n2 but doesnt list bozo at his scummiest position

fact is that for bozo or sabi to be fearkilling snowy and roleblocking me would require ghug and meme to believe that snowy was too dangerous to the team to keep alive

but snowy actually DID try to wagon damo
and actually DOES put damo as top scum

so why would the ezic scumteam be going out of their way to do actions that would directly help damo get rid of a threat (if damo is a miskill)

[brainbomb]

the two lines of thinking for this is that ezic sabi or ezic bozo thinks that damo is kalech mafia and doesnt want snowy to kill any mafia period or to remain alive thats a perfectly valid consideration

but why would the ezic scum want to protect town damo from what was likely a snowy miskill d3

it makes no sense when you start thinking from that pov

[brainbomb]

and to humor you
the scenario where im scum and faked a roleblock would imply that the snowy kill is to kill off a big talker? or that snowy briefly scumread ghug?

based on that logic ezic maf wouldve planned to kill snowy when he was no threat to the entire team and was keen on pushing multiple miskills or kalech kills

[TheFlyingBoat]

N2 scenario where sabi is an ezic and sees snowy list them as scum at the top of a five person list

it seems least likely that sabi would prioritize maf to need to fearkill snowy n2 to preserve sabi

so that leaves bozo who snowy was off and on with. he says bozo maybe was scum n2 but doesnt list bozo at his scummiest position

fact is that for bozo or sabi to be fearkilling snowy and roleblocking me would require ghug and meme to believe that snowy was too dangerous to the team to keep alive

but snowy actually DID try to wagon damo
and actually DOES put damo as top scum

so why would the ezic scumteam be going out of their way to do actions that would directly help damo get rid of a threat (if damo is a miskill)

If you assume that Sabi is town what conclusion do you come to based on this thread? Does it help resolve confusion and point you somewhere?

[bozotheclown]

damo how would you sum up bozos posts today

Critiqueing me and to a lesser extent you and virtually ignoring Sabi.

There is not much to base a read of BesharamSabi on other than their supposed town slip D1. If I am correct about you being on ghug's team, BesharamSabi's alignment will be resolved. If you are on the other mafia team, you could be right about brainbomb. If you are town, BesharamSabi's alignment will also be resolved, but it probably won't matter.

[damo666]

All this flip flopping in his reads isn't giving me town vibes from brainbomb. I don't remember any town in my four games being the erratic in their reads.

Like how do you explain that.

He was fine with damo yesterday but now he's scum.

He thought bozo was scum yesterday but now he's town.

What is going on?

I think there are 2 possibilities. One, brainbomb is trying to solve the game using a series of reaction tests as he often does as town. Or, two, he is scum who is trying to get anyone other than him killed.

Which?

[damo666]

damo how would you sum up bozos posts today

Critiqueing me and to a lesser extent you and virtually ignoring Sabi.

There is not much to base a read of BesharamSabi on other than their supposed town slip D1. If I am correct about you being on ghug's team, BesharamSabi's alignment will be resolved. If you are on the other mafia team, you could be right about brainbomb. If you are town, BesharamSabi's alignment will also be resolved, but it probably won't matter.

I am town. Shall we kill Sabi?

[bozotheclown]

All this flip flopping in his reads isn't giving me town vibes from brainbomb. I don't remember any town in my four games being the erratic in their reads.

Like how do you explain that.

He was fine with damo yesterday but now he's scum.

He thought bozo was scum yesterday but now he's town.

What is going on?

I think there are 2 possibilities. One, brainbomb is trying to solve the game using a series of reaction tests as he often does as town. Or, two, he is scum who is trying to get anyone other than him killed.

Which?

Which one do I think is true? The first is looking more likely.

[BesharamSabi]

Hello I'm back from bowing. Time to catch up on stuff I miss.

[bozotheclown]

Critiqueing me and to a lesser extent you and virtually ignoring Sabi.

There is not much to base a read of BesharamSabi on other than their supposed town slip D1. If I am correct about you being on ghug's team, BesharamSabi's alignment will be resolved. If you are on the other mafia team, you could be right about brainbomb. If you are town, BesharamSabi's alignment will also be resolved, but it probably won't matter.

I am town. Shall we kill Sabi?

You told me you were town in M1020 also. I do not see how you could logically reverse your scum read of ghug D2 like you did, even if you were more confident in your scum read of captainmeme.

[damo666]

I think there are 2 possibilities. One, brainbomb is trying to solve the game using a series of reaction tests as he often does as town. Or, two, he is scum who is trying to get anyone other than him killed.

Which?

Which one do I think is true? The first is looking more likely.

I was worried you might say that. Problem is from my pov that means you are scum. But if you were scum I think you would say the latter was more likely. This reinforces my opinion brain is scum.

[damo666]

There is not much to base a read of BesharamSabi on other than their supposed town slip D1. If I am correct about you being on ghug's team, BesharamSabi's alignment will be resolved. If you are on the other mafia team, you could be right about brainbomb. If you are town, BesharamSabi's alignment will also be resolved, but it probably won't matter.

I am town. Shall we kill Sabi?

You told me you were town in M1020 also. I do not see how you could logically reverse your scum read of ghug D2 like you did, even if you were more confident in your scum read of captainmeme.

My logic is weak?

[damo666]

Please note I have a function tomorrow and will be unable to get online, even to access vote status.

My last look will be about 8.5 hours before EOD so realistically I will not be changing my vote from where it stands about 9 hours before EOD.

Lfischl TFB and the other remaining townie please consider this well.

The 2 remaining scum are playing a hard game so maybe it's

K Bozo
E Brain

But Bozo seems to be looking to solve.

I dunno, Sabi/Brain?

My head hurts.

Of course each scum doesn't know the identity of the other so it's easy to look solvey.

[BesharamSabi]

when I supplied my reasoning why faking a rb wouldnt work in this setup as scum you accepted my logic instantly damo and unvoted me. at the time lfischl was our only claimed pr and if I was scum faking a rb I wouldve been confusing the kalech team into not only thinking I maybe was doc but that I also might just be opposing scum. from ezic forger pov thats tons of unecessary exposure with no actual gain on anything

What did you mean about this