MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[damo666]

Before I likely die let's walk through the most likely worst case scenario. Mafia kills me and Fox leaving us with Brain, Bozo, Damo, lfischl, and Sabi left. Lfischl is a clear. Brain is a soft clear due to the role block claim. They should have a 2/3 chance of finding scum in that 3 person PoE. If they guess successfully it is a winnable 2v1 on the final day.

If they guess incorrectly, we'll be left with a 1-2-1 heading into the night and we'll have to hope either at least one guy hits the opposing mafia to give us the aforementioned 2v1 or both choose the same town to kill to force a 1-1-1 where the correct answer is to vote no-kill and hope/assume mafia take each other out.

Now I understand the urge to kill Sabi here, I do, but do we actually think it is more likely they are scum than damo or bozo here? What do you think of their interaction with Eden before he subbed out for Squigs?

What happens is we go into night 1-1-1 and both scum kill town, next day vote for each other, next night kill each other, no player left?

[brainbomb]

lets just destroy bozo and sabi in whatever order you prefer damo and then we just win. honestly i wouldve happily killed either yesterday until macca decided to suicide for no reason

[brainbomb]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

[damo666]

Town cannot win at 1-1-1

Scum would not agree to NK

Scum1 votes for a player X.

If player X is town other scum votes X and as above.

If player X is other scum hen other scum votes initial scumvoter who then switches to scum1 and then they both switch to town.

So if we lose 2 clears tonight we cannot afford a miskill tomorrow.

Macca has really screwed this game.

@GM if it is left with 2 scum is it a 2 way draw, a 3 way draw (ie an auto 3wd at 1-1-1), or nobody wins?

[brainbomb]

this version of bozo is like if you gave joe biden a lobotomy and sent him to a tea party rally full of former military and had him give a speech on why it was time to move on from afghanistan

[Jamiet99uk]

##call gm is there a circumstance where the two scum could agree to a draw rather than risk killing each other?

Do you mean if the two remaining scum are the only players left?

[damo666]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

Yeah I'm pretty sure Bozo is K and Sabi is E.

Let's kill Sabi tomorrow and when he flips Bozo can resign.

I thank you.

[BesharamSabi]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

Damn OK.

I guess I will do better.

[brainbomb]

##call gm is there a circumstance where the two scum could agree to a draw rather than risk killing each other?

Do you mean if the two remaining scum are the only players left?

any scenarios where a tie could occur by either forcibly or by mutual agreement or by request. basically if its 1-1-1 can all sides agree to a tie. what would be the ruling

[Jamiet99uk]

@GM if it is left with 2 scum is it a 2 way draw, a 3 way draw (ie an auto 3wd at 1-1-1), or nobody wins?

If 2 scum are left and nobody else, then town loses and scum share in a draw.

1-1-1 however is *not* an automatic draw.

[BesharamSabi]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

Yeah I'm pretty sure Bozo is K and Sabi is E.

Let's kill Sabi tomorrow and when he flips Bozo can resign.

I thank you.

Or kill bozo first. Why are you eager to kill me off first.

[brainbomb]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

Yeah I'm pretty sure Bozo is K and Sabi is E.

Let's kill Sabi tomorrow and when he flips Bozo can resign.

I thank you.

seems like we should flip bozo first but im fine either way

[BesharamSabi]

this notion that damo is buddying me is bullcrap because if this is him buddying me ive pretty much also buddied him. I simply think his tone is pure here and he ive seen him as town enough times to know when I can trust his logic.

sabi you have no logic at all. your questions are just gotchas which seem laden with paranoia and insincerity.

bozo is just overly conspirathetical with no actual original thoughts or reasons for why anyone is town or scum

Yeah I'm pretty sure Bozo is K and Sabi is E.

Let's kill Sabi tomorrow and when he flips Bozo can resign.

I thank you.

seems like we should flip bozo first but im fine either way

Bozo would get us more info from the flip.

[Jamiet99uk]

##call gm is there a circumstance where the two scum could agree to a draw rather than risk killing each other?

Do you mean if the two remaining scum are the only players left?

any scenarios where a tie could occur by either forcibly or by mutual agreement or by request. basically if its 1-1-1 can all sides agree to a tie. what would be the ruling

I will consult the Council.

[brainbomb]

Yeah I'm pretty sure Bozo is K and Sabi is E.

Let's kill Sabi tomorrow and when he flips Bozo can resign.

I thank you.

seems like we should flip bozo first but im fine either way

Bozo would get us more info from the flip.

based on what? is this a kalech claim?

[damo666]

Back after EON.

[BesharamSabi]

If we hammer bozo and he flips town I will hammer myself the next day.

I promise that.

Just flip bozo first.

[brainbomb]

Sabi stances today
damo is buddying brain
brain is letting damo buddy him
brain is scum for laughing at maccas claim
we should kill bozo first

[BesharamSabi]

seems like we should flip bozo first but im fine either way

Bozo would get us more info from the flip.

based on what? is this a kalech claim?

If he's K.

I know damo is E. There's no other explanation for his behavior towards you.

[BesharamSabi]

Sabi stances today
damo is buddying brain
brain is letting damo buddy him
brain is scum for laughing at maccas claim
we should kill bozo first

You rather I go back to not being engaged because I can? At least I'm putting all my thoughts out in the open.