MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[snowy801]

I'm not crowing over being right over Flum any more than I'm crying about being wrong on Tom because that's just how the game is

Your belief that damo is town is only meaningful to me in the sense that you believe it

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I believe it because damo seems to be an organizer in this game. he wants us to understand what the likely profile is of ezic mafia. in practice its not like the last kelechian maf is gonna hard claim and say hey guys ill help you kill ezics instead. so on the surface its about damo focusing people but im just not sure how itd work

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id be ok wth catching the last kalech maf too since its simply less deaths per night

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I'll be working until deadline so have some reads. (And even if you think I'm scum, you should still heed these because it's multi)
I will omgus vote anyone who complains I don't have any strong scumreads.

1. BesharamSabi
Null. They're playing very loose without much concern and I haven't seen anything that would justify killing them yet. I think they're smart enough they could do this as scum

2. Foxcastle
Town. I find it much more likely Town-Fox looked at role PMs and noticed no teammates listed in scum PMs and commenting on it, then Scum-Fox reading it and feeling comfortable enough to post about it. (Obviously it could be a bluff intended to illicit town reads, but whatevs, it works on me for now)

4. brainbomb
Null. Brain has come such a long way since I first got to know him and it warms my heart. I used to just not worry about brain's alignment because he'd inevitably obvtown or obvscum. I'm not sure if that will happen anymore. I still have seen nothing that would indicate alignment yet.

5. Durga
Town. I'm still very sad she doesn't sheep me anymore. However, I don't think Scum-Durga would instantly apologize for saying I've become bad at the game or being mean. It felt genuine there.

6. TheFlyingBoat
Null. After looking at our previous game, I realized I scumread him in that game too for a lot of the things he is doing here and he was town. He even tried to get me daykilled day 1 last game too lmao. Still nothing to indicate he's town yet though.

7. Ghug
Slight Town. I actually had a slight growing scumread on him throughout day 1 because I expected a lot more complaints on the setup regarding how most scumtells are nullified. (I remember him doing it last multi setup). But he's genuinely a little off-kilter from that PE exchange which I still haven't read. His pushes have lacked muster but that doesn't really matter because multi lol. I convinced myself he's probably town because scum ghug would be more similar to his normal meta.

8. President Eden/Squiggs
Town? I want to put town, my gut is telling me town, but I don't actually have good reasons. The replace out seemed more like town frustration maybe? idk.

9. ChrisVis/Snowy
Scum. Chris was oddly defensive and angry at people accusing him and it wasn't the towniest behaviour, and Snowy's done nothing to change that. He's playing exactly like his other scum game and his meta and weird comments aren't looking super townie. I am self aware enough to know I might be biased against this slot after his weird push on me but there's a lot of scum out there and he just fits in too easily.

10. lfischl
Null. He's pretty funny but I got nothing.

11. CaptainMeme
Trololo, since he's not going to see my question, he definitely voted me at 5-4 bona/ma in an attempt to tie it to get a no-kill. If he's scum, I expect his partners to be ones who are complaining about him the loudest.

12. Fluminator
Town. Handsome. 100% Vanilla Townie Confirmed (tm)

13. bozo
Null. I was definitely expecting bozo to thrive in a multi setup where the core mechanics are very different from normal mafia, but he's been pretty lacklustre so far. But it's multi so it doesn't make sense as either any alignment really. I've never been able to read bozo in the past.

14. Tom Bomb
Null. He was scum the last couple of games I've seen him in and he was surprisingly awkward in those. As town he's always been regarded as one of the all-time bests and I think he struggles as scum. I would be townreading him if it wasn't multi, but as is, I don't think I can give him a read.

15. Rdrivera2005
Town. Did not give a shit who was daykilled. Just making wagons for fun. Very strong town vibes to not have passionate scum reads after day 1 and focusing more on generating info. If he is scum, I don't think any of his partners were close to be bloc.

16. Damo666
Null. I can't read Damo. He never gives reasons behind anything he does as any alignment. He also scum reads me in literally every game we've played so that's not alignment indicative either.

17. kgray
So townie in a multi that she's scummy slot that always exists.

18. Macca573
I'm out of time, no idea.

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his only scumread was you snowy

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guess it could be bozo. he uses the excuse that he can never really read bozo which gives himself a way to not have to mention anything bozo did

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I really, really, fucking really do not want to open up the can of shitworms that is role PM analysis, but we don't actually know if the scum teams received a PM that lists their team mates. We only know that they were going to be provided additional information in a separate PM, which could have just been a discord link without listing who else is on the team.

@GM, is the list of mafia teammates in the separate PM?

Here is another town slip to analyze.

okay yea so bozo might be scum

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Ezic Guesses
squiggs
flyingboat
sabi

Kalechian
bozo or fox

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from the ezic sub aquatic lair of villainy

bozo: any plans on who we must kill? *eats a fried clam*

sabi: we should kill lfischl since hes a PR

bozo: a used up PR

sabi: but hes a clear; and lfischl is very dangerous

squiggs: what makes him so dangerous?

sabi: body odor. he uses arid extra dry but it doesnt work.

bozo: then it is settled; we will send him new deoderant. squiggs fire up the aqautic death ray. we got a fish to fry

[snowy801]

his only scumread was you snowy

I'm honored

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from the kalashnikoff chat:

*soft elevator music* trinity, neo and morpheus stare at bozo*

Morpheus: will it be the red pill or the blue pill?

bozo: I was thinking we should do a survey of the entire game to see who would red pill and who would blue pill

*Neo and trinity stare at each other*

Morpheus: you must choose and there is no going back

bozo: then I choose to not open my mind. because new ideas are bad

Morpheus: well then enjoy this complimentary t bone steak and couscous. ignorance is bliss.

bozo: now to kill my greatest adversary: krusty. that son of a bitch has no room to claim to be a clown

[snowy801]

Over/under on meme actually bothering to playing tomorrow?

I'mma put my thinking cap on for a bit hold my beer

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Over/under on meme actually bothering to playing tomorrow?

I'mma put my thinking cap on for a bit hold my beer

I think he will.

[snowy801]

I guess it could be bozo

Hate to think it, but reality is often disappointing

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This feels like genuine annoyance.

Meaning what? You think they are teammates?

Yes, I could definitely see Meme wanting to kill Kgray for the memes too.

this tells me that the kgray kill was durga and flum just agreeing on who the best town to kill was. I doubt meme was their teammate

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Durga didn't actually do too many strong pushes that would result in a scum team obviously want to kill her. She talked a lot about how she wanted people who were less active dead so I could see the other scum team having less active players.

I also think this means at least one of Durga's teammates is relatively active.

this probably means both are relatively active as he not merely referring to himself here

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Mafia team predictions:

bozo: lfischl/ghug/snowy, Foxcastle/Fluminator
Squigs: TFB/lfischl/Macca, captainmeme/damo
TheFlyingBoat: Macca/captainmeme/ghug, Fluminator/Foxcastle
ghug: bozo/Tom/Fluminator, captainmeme/Macca
rdrivera: Fluminator/Foxcastle/Squigs, captainmeme/bozo
Foxcastle: Tom/bozo/brainbomb, lfischl/TFB
brainbomb: Fluminator/lfischl/Macca, BesharamSabi/Squigs
BesharamSabi: damo/snowy/Fluminator, rdrivera/lfischl
Tom: TFB/brainbomb/captainmeme, ghug/lfischl
snowy: Fluminator/Tom/Macca/damo/TFB
damo: ghug/captainmeme/snowy, Squigs/TFB
lfischl: ghug/Macca/Fluminator/?/?
Macca: Squigs/BesharamSabi/Tom, ghug/snowy

(lfischl added, Macca added, Squigs updated)


@captainmeme and Fluminator: Are you going to participate?

Macca/Snowy/probably someone who keeps scoffing at the thought Macca would influence decisions (this hinges on Macca being scum)

Durga/Meme/ more active poster I haven't figured.

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going to tale flum at his sincerity that scumteam B does think the durga kill came from macca.

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way too many mentions of meme by flum and it gives me a weird feeling that i need to just flip a coin to solve if flum would out his teammate as a joke repeatedly

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foxcastle who do you think the last wolf is on the kalech squad