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Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

#2701 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
Saw Flum mention it earlier but I am entirely unsure where my "commitment to defend Macca" is coming from

But find it weird all you'd like, it will amount to nothing

As to M70, if you actually judged my decisions without your personal bias clouding your view you will recognize that I killed people based on their performance and interpreted beliefs, not whether I thought they were good (hint: nobody was)
What do you think my personal bias is here? I don't think I am very good and clearly left myself off that list in an earlier post. I am confused as to what you think is clouding my view.

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#2702 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:02 pm
Guys but what if

And hear me out here

We just killed Flum today
I'm starting to get snowy/Flum team vibes.
Then kill him
Maybe I meant town team.

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#2703 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:31 pm
And to preempt, yes it is slightly different in that as mafia you knew the alignment of all your opposition, but at the same time I think it would have been foolish of the town to let you create the ideal KILO situation for yourself and it would be foolish here for us not to take advantage of the setup to get them to kill other mafia members. Combine that with there being good odds Macca is scum I am confident pulling the trigger on him is a good strategic choice.
Them*

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#2704 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:35 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:31 pm
And to preempt, yes it is slightly different in that as mafia you knew the alignment of all your opposition, but at the same time I think it would have been foolish of the town to let you create the ideal KILO situation for yourself and it would be foolish here for us not to take advantage of the setup to get them to kill other mafia members. Combine that with there being good odds Macca is scum I am confident pulling the trigger on him is a good strategic choice.
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My bad, thank you for the correction.

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#2705 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:35 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
Saw Flum mention it earlier but I am entirely unsure where my "commitment to defend Macca" is coming from

But find it weird all you'd like, it will amount to nothing

As to M70, if you actually judged my decisions without your personal bias clouding your view you will recognize that I killed people based on their performance and interpreted beliefs, not whether I thought they were good (hint: nobody was)
What do you think my personal bias is here? I don't think I am very good and clearly left myself off that list in an earlier post. I am confused as to what you think is clouding my view.
You cannot possibly conclude that I was killing "good" players and leaving "bad" players alive if you observe M70 without bias

I know not where your bias exists. I suppose it is merely supposition, but I am presuming it exists

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#2706 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:36 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm


I'm starting to get snowy/Flum team vibes.
Then kill him
Maybe I meant town team.
Maybe you're an idiot

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#2707 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:37 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
Saw Flum mention it earlier but I am entirely unsure where my "commitment to defend Macca" is coming from

But find it weird all you'd like, it will amount to nothing

As to M70, if you actually judged my decisions without your personal bias clouding your view you will recognize that I killed people based on their performance and interpreted beliefs, not whether I thought they were good (hint: nobody was)
Every time momentum on Macca seems to build, you seem intent on deflating it rapidly all while still claiming to scum read them, yet being unwilling to put a vote on them.

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#2708 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:40 pm

Shrug

Coincidence

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#2709 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:41 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:36 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm


Then kill him
Maybe I meant town team.
Maybe you're an idiot
You're just a bundle of joy.

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#2710 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:42 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:35 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:30 pm
Saw Flum mention it earlier but I am entirely unsure where my "commitment to defend Macca" is coming from

But find it weird all you'd like, it will amount to nothing

As to M70, if you actually judged my decisions without your personal bias clouding your view you will recognize that I killed people based on their performance and interpreted beliefs, not whether I thought they were good (hint: nobody was)
What do you think my personal bias is here? I don't think I am very good and clearly left myself off that list in an earlier post. I am confused as to what you think is clouding my view.
You cannot possibly conclude that I was killing "good" players and leaving "bad" players alive if you observe M70 without bias

I know not where your bias exists. I suppose it is merely supposition, but I am presuming it exists
I mean I could just be an idiot. I don't need to be biased :lol:

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#2711 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:43 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:41 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:36 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm


Maybe I meant town team.
Maybe you're an idiot
You're just a bundle of joy.
You said you'd be grumpy today what's up

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#2712 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:47 pm

I'm finding Macca kind of endearing right now. Now I remember why I don't like playing these that often.

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#2713 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:49 pm

But anyways that chart you made and posted in the mafia god thread plus your explanation definitely included justifications that included their ability to make good reads down the line and their ability to be manipulated to your side during KILO. Is good/bad overly reductive? Perhaps, but if that's your primary thrust that's needlessly nitpick and misses my actual point.

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#2714 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:49 pm

Also, if you were roleblocked you should probably say? Gives us another night action.

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#2715 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:51 pm

All this talk about Flum and no action.

##VOTE FLUM
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#2716 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:52 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:49 pm
But anyways that chart you made and posted in the mafia god thread plus your explanation definitely included justifications that included their ability to make good reads down the line and their ability to be manipulated to your side during KILO. Is good/bad overly reductive? Perhaps, but if that's your primary thrust that's needlessly nitpick and misses my actual point.
There's a pretty straightforward explanation here. Most of the game is listing me as scummy (even though I haven't seen a single case) so Snowy is seeing an opportunity to take out one of his loudest detractors.
In every world where Snowy is scum, he'll take that opportunity.

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#2717 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:54 pm

Funny how you became my loudest detractor after I almost killed you d1

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#2718 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:57 pm

I think you mean N1


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#2720 Post by damo666 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:00 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:03 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:51 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:48 pm


Yes, because the pair with durga can't be in the triple.
Right, but from the town PoV, we don't know who the pair is, so we have to consider the possible threesomes including either or both of the twosome.
Damo did his math from his pov on Durgas team and is trying to backtrack now. I can't recall a time he's done math wrong before. I know this is probably just confbias, but damo as scum makes more sense to me then anyone else is this game rn.
I'm not backtracking and I'm not scum.

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