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Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

#2601 Post by lfischl » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:34 pm

@bozo have you ever considered the possibility that Ghug Is scum and I am not?

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#2602 Post by brainbomb » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:34 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:33 pm
Why not?
I dont think Tom could powerwolf in this style of game. which tells me he is legit

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#2603 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:35 pm

Why do you think that about Tom?

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#2604 Post by brainbomb » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:36 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:35 pm
Why do you think that about Tom?
his pushes are weighty and aggresive in tone. he is skeptical and looks to be town in intent

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#2605 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:38 pm

Specifically,

1) Why do you think Tom is power wolfing
2) Why do you not believe him capable of such?

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#2606 Post by BesharamSabi » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:39 pm

Going to be in and out today because I'm gming vdc top board as well as have civ 6 session with friends. I will respond to everyone's questions and comments towards me, I saw them. Haven't had time to respond yet but they will be responded to.

Will be here a hour before EOD.

I may change my vote.

Not game related but Captain meme and I will be on the stream. Maybe durga as well??? Stream for dbn starts in a couple of hours.

https://youtu.be/8KmOU5TavF8

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#2607 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm

Wait, was anyone roleblocked?

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#2608 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
Are you asking PRs to claim they were role blocked lol?

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#2609 Post by brainbomb » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Specifically,

1) Why do you think Tom is power wolfing
2) Why do you not believe him capable of such?
If his currently play were scum rather than town I would argue he would be powerwolfing here where hes dominating thread space and has an imposing presence. Usually its about a big ego and Tom doesnt strike me as in that mode right now. What he is doing feels like sincere hunting

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#2610 Post by brainbomb » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
Are you asking PRs to claim they were role blocked lol?
what? thats not what he said

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#2611 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:47 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Specifically,

1) Why do you think Tom is power wolfing
2) Why do you not believe him capable of such?
If his currently play were scum rather than town I would argue he would be powerwolfing here where hes dominating thread space and has an imposing presence. Usually its about a big ego and Tom doesnt strike me as in that mode right now. What he is doing feels like sincere hunting
Which pushes Tom has done have felt weighty and dominating to you?

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#2612 Post by Fluminator » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
Are you asking PRs to claim they were role blocked lol?
Do you not know how roleblocks work?

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#2613 Post by damo666 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:52 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:52 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:30 am
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:44 am
is it more beneficial to kill someone from the other scumteam today?
Yes, very much so.
I meant to expound on this last night. Catching scum on the other team goes a long way toward solving the multi aspect of the game. Once we have two different mafia members, we can compare potential kills to see if they fit with either team. If there is a good reason they can't be scum with either, then they're town.

Not to go all Damo here, but there are 816 three-player scum teams in this setup. Just identifying one from each team means that you can eliminate all of the teams that don't include either of those (544), and all of the teams that include both of them (12). That leaves 260 teams, and each time there's a flip, that number gets significantly smaller.

I don't know that there's a good way to target the non-Durga team in general, but if you are trying to pick between two of your scumreads, pick the one that seems likely to not be scum with Durga.
From a town pov we are already down to 311 teams (91 pairs with durga and 220 other triples).

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#2614 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:54 pm

lfischl wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:34 pm
@bozo have you ever considered the possibility that Ghug Is scum and I am not?
The entire "case" is based on something you did, not something I did.

Are you taking this tact because it's easier to reroute the tunnel than break out of it, or do you actually scumread me?

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#2615 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:55 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
There's a roleblock and bozo didn't even mention it?

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#2616 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:56 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
Are you asking PRs to claim they were role blocked lol?
is this a scum slip?

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#2617 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:59 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:52 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:52 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:30 am


Yes, very much so.
I meant to expound on this last night. Catching scum on the other team goes a long way toward solving the multi aspect of the game. Once we have two different mafia members, we can compare potential kills to see if they fit with either team. If there is a good reason they can't be scum with either, then they're town.

Not to go all Damo here, but there are 816 three-player scum teams in this setup. Just identifying one from each team means that you can eliminate all of the teams that don't include either of those (544), and all of the teams that include both of them (12). That leaves 260 teams, and each time there's a flip, that number gets significantly smaller.

I don't know that there's a good way to target the non-Durga team in general, but if you are trying to pick between two of your scumreads, pick the one that seems likely to not be scum with Durga.
From a town pov we are already down to 311 teams (91 pairs with durga and 220 other triples).
You mathed this wrong.

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#2618 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:02 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:43 pm
Wait, was anyone roleblocked?
Are you asking PRs to claim they were role blocked lol?
Do you not know how roleblocks work?
I may be misunderstanding your question but given that two people died and one of them was the bus driver that the role blocked targets would be town?

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#2619 Post by snowy801 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:07 pm

Why can't Durga have been hook killed?

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#2620 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:08 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:07 pm
Why can't Durga have been hook killed?
I don't think anyone has ruled it out but isn't the probability somewhat low?

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