MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[brainbomb]

I'm inclined to view the scum teams as Durga, Flum, and Fox and the other team as Macca, Meme, and Ghug.

TheFlyingBoat: Fluminator/lfischl/captainmeme, ghug/Macca

whatd lfischl do to drop off your list?

[ghug]

Anyone wanna ##VOTE Tom with me?

[snowy801]

If we assume

i) Durga didn't bus
ii) the entire durga team were not on Bona

then there has to be at least one Durga team member in:

Sabi Bozo Flum rdr TFB Tom

I townread most of these though.

Sabi and Bozo should not be in the above.

So, one of Flum rdr TFB Tom

##vote The FlyingBoat

Any interest in voting my boy Flum instead?

[snowy801]

Anyone wanna ##VOTE Tom with me?

I might, whatchu got for me

[damo666]

I'm inclined to view the scum teams as Durga, Flum, and Fox and the other team as Macca, Meme, and Ghug.

Macca and Meme both bussing?

[damo666]

One of the reasons I wanted people to answer if they played multi before is because players who have will be much more aware of the mechanics that make scum being tricky.
I've played multi games on mafiascum a few times now and the gist is.

Scum that are too scummy get daykilled.
Scum that are too townie get nightkilled.

And it's all about balancing that middle. A lot of first time players don't realize that it's often not optimal play to try to look as townie as possible. There's always at least one scum who is who learned the hard way. (That's where I mentioned the "so townie your scummy" thing). I think Durga is the perfect example of this.

But scummies actually do act different from townies (and the ones who don't will likely be taken care of by our enemy's enemy).
And yes I was pushing a different narrative day 1, but day 1 is a waste anyway and I wanted an environment where scum felt safer doing scummy or lazy things. (I did say I had a method which I was keeping secret day 1)

Tl;dr I'm pretty sure Snowy is playing this style of game where he's playing a survivor's game, not a townie game. And that's pretty scummy

I put Flum as town for this

[damo666]

If we assume

i) Durga didn't bus
ii) the entire durga team were not on Bona

then there has to be at least one Durga team member in:

Sabi Bozo Flum rdr TFB Tom

I townread most of these though.

Sabi and Bozo should not be in the above.

So, one of Flum rdr TFB Tom

##vote The FlyingBoat

Any interest in voting my boy Flum instead?

No. See above post.

[snowy801]

So making shit up and lying makes you town read him?

Interesting

[ghug]

Anyone wanna ##VOTE Tom with me?

I might, whatchu got for me

I wasn't particularly impressed with him coming into the day for activity/tone/questionable opinions and his is the only interaction with my wagon I find patently scummy: he's happy it exists, but he doesn't want to be on it, and he doesn't want to set up a second one.

[brainbomb]

##vote theflyingboat

[snowy801]

Anyone wanna ##VOTE Tom with me?

I might, whatchu got for me

I wasn't particularly impressed with him coming into the day for activity/tone/questionable opinions and his is the only interaction with my wagon I find patently scummy: he's happy it exists, but he doesn't want to be on it, and he doesn't want to set up a second one.

How do you feel about his "efforts" to setup brainbomb?

[ghug]

I might, whatchu got for me

I wasn't particularly impressed with him coming into the day for activity/tone/questionable opinions and his is the only interaction with my wagon I find patently scummy: he's happy it exists, but he doesn't want to be on it, and he doesn't want to set up a second one.

How do you feel about his "efforts" to setup brainbomb?

I get the sense he actually scumreads brain, but he clearly doesn't have a strong desire to do anything to him.

[snowy801]

Loathe as I am to get off your wagon

##vote Tom Bombadil

Still think Flum is the right shot today, but I suppose there's no reason why there can't be multiple right shots

[snowy801]

Also am I drinking kool-aid or damo just obvscumming

[brainbomb]

im going to see spiderman but I dont think ill miss end of day. the movie is at 1250 ct so I should be home with plenty of time

[Jamiet99uk]

=== MINISTRY of ADMINISTRATION ===
+++++ VOTE COUNT 2.4 +++++

ghug(3) - çâpţăïñmémè, bozotheclown, Macca573
Macca573(2) - Fluminator, TheFlyingBoat
lfischl(2) - BesharamSabi, Foxcastle
TheFlyingBoat(2) - Damo666, brainbomb
Tom Bombadil(1) - ghug, Snowy801
brainbomb(1) - Tom Bombadil
bozotheclown(1) - rdrivera2005
damo666(1) - Squigs44

GHUG is scheduled for removal.

Lfischl needs to vote.

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[Foxcastle]

is it more beneficial to kill someone from the other scumteam today?

Yes, very much so.

I meant to expound on this last night. Catching scum on the other team goes a long way toward solving the multi aspect of the game. Once we have two different mafia members, we can compare potential kills to see if they fit with either team. If there is a good reason they can't be scum with either, then they're town.

Not to go all Damo here, but there are 816 three-player scum teams in this setup. Just identifying one from each team means that you can eliminate all of the teams that don't include either of those (544), and all of the teams that include both of them (12). That leaves 260 teams, and each time there's a flip, that number gets significantly smaller.

I don't know that there's a good way to target the non-Durga team in general, but if you are trying to pick between two of your scumreads, pick the one that seems likely to not be scum with Durga.

[ghug]

Also am I drinking kool-aid or damo just obvscumming

I'm not seeing it. What's got your goat?

[snowy801]

Look I don't mean to knock down game philosophy but who do you think is scum? You've so far given like 0 total answers (unless you genuinely scum read lfischl, in which case make it clear)

[brainbomb]

whoever was killing durga likely felt they were town. I dont think the other scumteam would be prioritizing a durga kill if they knew she was a baddie

which makes me think durga was killed by someone threatened by her reads
or durga accidentally bus drivered the kill on herself
or durga was killed to frame a select grouping of people to generate mis kills
or they thought durga was a pr