MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[Squigs44]

If you check her ISO she talks a lot about how lower posters should be killed. I don't think she'd be pressing that if both her partners were under the radar because if that narrative gets traction she's just making things harder on them all.

I get the conclusion that Durgas scumpartners probably aren't lurking.
What I don't get is the conclusion that the other team has lurkers based on what Durga said.

If Durga's narrative was "we should kill lurkers" I could see that encouraging the team to fearkill her, scumread or not.

Okay this makes more sense, thanks

[Tom Bombadil]

Guys what if

We actually played this game

Although I'm totally cool with just killing ghug today for shits and giggles

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

[Foxcastle]

I’m doing family things for a few more hours. I’ll be back to comment later, if there’s anything to comment on.

I’ve been clear about my opposition to killing ghug and strong desire to kill bozo. I’m open to other ideas. The worst thing we could do is stagnate today and learn nothing.

[snowy801]

Snowy, what u sending to the god thread. Is it top secret?

You'll die before you find out

[snowy801]

Guys what if

We actually played this game

Although I'm totally cool with just killing ghug today for shits and giggles

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

I don't know what to tell you, except I do

Uhh *checks notes* I added bozo to my townreads and damo to my scumreads if that helps

Since you're so keen on explaining your reads what's up with rivera and Flum?

[BesharamSabi]

I’m doing family things for a few more hours. I’ll be back to comment later, if there’s anything to comment on.

I’ve been clear about my opposition to killing ghug and strong desire to kill bozo. I’m open to other ideas. The worst thing we could do is stagnate today and learn nothing.

I am down to wagon bozo or lfischl. At least we get more info out of those two flip than we do from ghug.

People only want to kill ghug because kgrey got unalived which is a dumb reason to yeet ghug...

Any reason why you think the game is dead today?

[BesharamSabi]

Guys what if

We actually played this game

Although I'm totally cool with just killing ghug today for shits and giggles

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

Rdr barely posted in day two. How is he in your townread?

Do you not find his interactions with durga odd when rereading their posts or am I overthinking this?

[Tom Bombadil]

I made it pretty clear why I think rivera is town.

His ridicule of the doc not saving “obvious choice” kgray was very misguided considering the setup imo. With the potential of doc to accidentally save scum, there is way more incentive to self save as often as possible. I think scum rivera would have thought through this and naturally not said what he did.

I think Flum is genuinely hunting today. His reasonings regarding non-lurkers on Durgas team is sound and a good catch (though he could be on other scum team) and I like his link of Durga and meme even if I don’t know if it holds any water.

[Tom Bombadil]

Guys what if

We actually played this game

Although I'm totally cool with just killing ghug today for shits and giggles

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

Rdr barely posted in day two. How is he in your townread?

Do you not find his interactions with durga odd when rereading their posts or am I overthinking this?

I wish in general people wouldnt accuse me of not contributing when it’s the fact that they don’t read what I say lol. I’m guilty of it too sometimes, but cmon.

[Tom Bombadil]

Uh. Also think TFB and Durga are very unlikely to be teammates. Durga fanned the flames at some point D1 asking if TFB ever answered my accusation of him being scared (he had not). Doubt Durga does that to a teammate.

[BesharamSabi]

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

Rdr barely posted in day two. How is he in your townread?

Do you not find his interactions with durga odd when rereading their posts or am I overthinking this?

I wish in general people wouldnt accuse me of not contributing when it’s the fact that they don’t read what I say lol. I’m guilty of it too sometimes, but cmon.

You posted your explanation a minute after I asked lol, I am sorry.

If you posted it before, I am sorry for missing it.

But you didn't answer my questions, unfortunately.

[Tom Bombadil]

I do not find their interactions odd, no.

[Tom Bombadil]

What do you find odd about their interactions?

[BesharamSabi]

What do you find odd about their interactions?

It seems like she kept leading him to vote for different people and he kept following along with her. It came off as weird when I reread her posts.

But maybe knowing her alignment it clouded my perspective when I did the reread so I guess this was a dumb thing for me to do.

[brainbomb]

flum youve asked me twice now to cite when coaching has ever occurred in a mafia game

coaching isnt even the right word here

what happened was sabi made the following comments

Does the fact that there are two mafia teams change your answer?

Honestly I have no experience with this format of the game. I guess one scum is like yea how dare they question our scum team member and the other is now thinking wow the other scum team is fucked.

In regards to how would town/mafia respond: I honestly think neither groups would respond to those questions in any meaningful way because they come off as shit post questions. I only sent those questions to try to get you to contribute something to the game. You did do that by sending me questions right back.

What have I contributed to the game, in your estimation?

In regards to scum teams knowing identities I am sure both teams do. At least that’s what I got from quickly skimming the roles description.

To be more clear, is it your belief that the Ezic Star Order members know the identities of the Kolechian Terrorist members, and vice versa?

In regards to what I want to know: how do both scum teams decide on who will be night kill or is it two night kills or does the gm pick one at random?

Traditionally, and as I understand from setup review, both teams have a nightkill. Their motivations for their nightkill shift a bit, as brainbomb noted earlier, because they have to manage the strength of a different mafia team as well as the town.

In regards to contributing to the game: a series of never ending questions to me and not one deez nutz reference which is amazing.

In regards to ezics and kolechian teams knowing each other, also yes.

I'm regards to how kills are set up: So there is two night kills but town only gets one day kill? That seems a bit unfair to me. What is the lylo/kylo math on how many miskills town is allowed before we are fucked?

this is not coaching
this is reframing of the question to give her a chance to pretend

[Tom Bombadil]

What do you find odd about their interactions?

It seems like she kept leading him to vote for different people and he kept following along with her. It came off as weird when I reread her posts.

But maybe knowing her alignment it clouded my perspective when I did the reread so I guess this was a dumb thing for me to do.

I did not get that, but I’ll look again. I thought you were taking about the interactions themselves, not the voting interactions. Not a dumb thing to look for though.

[brainbomb]

just dont get hung up on buzzphrases and dismiss the case because it involved some form of advisement.

[rdrivera2005]

Guys what if

We actually played this game

Although I'm totally cool with just killing ghug today for shits and giggles

It would help if you explained your reads better. Like why you townread brain more than saying he’s been acting towny. Or why you scumread me.

But also, we could just kill ghug for shits and giggles.

I think my biggest reads D2 are townreads of rdr and Flum which did not exist yesterday. Have you any changes since yesterday snowy?

I don't know what to tell you, except I do

Uhh *checks notes* I added bozo to my townreads and damo to my scumreads if that helps

Since you're so keen on explaining your reads what's up with rivera and Flum?

Why you added Damo to your scumreads? I don't remember much from him today.

And good you asked Tom about his read on me, I was going to ask too.

[snowy801]

Not sure I just tend to iso people real quick then be like "aight this guy's town, this guy's scum"

damo fell down the rankings deep earlier and I couldn't really tell you why

[rdrivera2005]

Uh. Also think TFB and Durga are very unlikely to be teammates. Durga fanned the flames at some point D1 asking if TFB ever answered my accusation of him being scared (he had not). Doubt Durga does that to a teammate.

I would add that Macca is also not on team Durga. Durga would never buss a teammate that way.