MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[bozotheclown]

Why are you so certain ghug is scum?

I'm not, but he was one of my suspects, and everyone is now voting for him.

Does people voting for ghug make him more likely to be scum?

It makes it more likely he will flip, and since I suspect him, I am OK with it.

[lfischl]

That is a good question, I had to check, but no, he never changed his vote.

Can you answer my question about ghug now?

Why are you so obsessed with that. Yes I was in games with him but did I actually interact with him? No.

How do you define interact?

I don't think I talked to him at all unless I just don't remember

[Foxcastle]

I'm not, but he was one of my suspects, and everyone is now voting for him.

Does people voting for ghug make him more likely to be scum?

It makes it more likely he will flip, and since I suspect him, I am OK with it.

Bozo: contributes nothing except repeating his theory that ghug and lfischl are scum.
Also bozo: not really so certain ghug is scum
Also bozo: super opportunistic

[Squigs44]

Why are you so certain ghug is scum?

I'm not, but he was one of my suspects, and everyone is now voting for him.

Does people voting for ghug make him more likely to be scum?

Interestingly enough, about 2 years ago I programmed an AI to identify scum given some data from a mafia game. It was actually pretty decent, and by about day 3 was better at identifying scum than I was (which isn't saying much tbh).
One of the things I found during my research and analysis was that there was a statistical correlation between someone's alignment and how many votes they received. I doubt ghug would let something like statistics define him, but an interesting piece of trivia nevertheless.

[Foxcastle]

I'm not, but he was one of my suspects, and everyone is now voting for him.

Does people voting for ghug make him more likely to be scum?

Interestingly enough, about 2 years ago I programmed an AI to identify scum given some data from a mafia game. It was actually pretty decent, and by about day 3 was better at identifying scum than I was (which isn't saying much tbh).
One of the things I found during my research and analysis was that there was a statistical correlation between someone's alignment and how many votes they received. I doubt ghug would let something like statistics define him, but an interesting piece of trivia nevertheless.

Has anyone let Bona know that, statistically speaking, he's scum?

[Squigs44]

Does people voting for ghug make him more likely to be scum?

Interestingly enough, about 2 years ago I programmed an AI to identify scum given some data from a mafia game. It was actually pretty decent, and by about day 3 was better at identifying scum than I was (which isn't saying much tbh).
One of the things I found during my research and analysis was that there was a statistical correlation between someone's alignment and how many votes they received. I doubt ghug would let something like statistics define him, but an interesting piece of trivia nevertheless.

Has anyone let Bona know that, statistically speaking, he's scum?

Shhhhhh

[Squigs44]

I feel like Bozo did this same thing last game and got miskilled for it, so I'm hesitant on killing him today. The biggest difference I see is that last game he seemed to comment on more of the game, whereas this game he seems more stuck on this one facet of the game

[Foxcastle]

I feel like Bozo did this same thing last game and got miskilled for it, so I'm hesitant on killing him today. The biggest difference I see is that last game he seemed to comment on more of the game, whereas this game he seems more stuck on this one facet of the game

So, I defended Bozo on the same grounds, as I've also seen him do this in other games. But then Rdr had the truth of it: scum Bozo only has one scum read (okay, in this case 2, but they're the same read).

[Squigs44]

Sabi, in your overnight reads list, you had:
2 null-scum
8 null
6 null-town

Given that there are 6 scum, then assuming your two null scum reads are indeed scum, 4 of your null reads would also be scum (or null-town reads).

If you were surprised Durga was scum and you listed her as null, who would NOT surprise you if they flipped scum? If your reads are true and your surprise is genuine, then you have a very inaccurate view of the gamestate right now

[snowy801]

Meta reads bad mkay

Using your brains is in fact legal

[Squigs44]

Meta reads bad mkay

Using your brains is in fact legal

I used my brain to try to sort Bozo last game and look where it got me

[snowy801]

I question whether anyone was using their brains last game

[brainbomb]

im about to binge 8 hours of the witcher

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote brainbomb

[rdrivera2005]

Week, first of all RIP Durga and Kgray. I was townreading both (and had a feeling Durga might be PR, but she was scum PR). Kgray was so obvious NK target that I really don't get what our Doctor was doing.

I think scum is targeting people that won't be DKed and that are good at scum hunting/pushing. Maybe they are just targeting PRs, but I doubt.

Considering this I understand why people are voting Ghug. I just don't have this confidence and I suck at reading him. I still think Flum might be scum here, considering the NKs.

Another scum possibility is Bozo, I don't like how his reads don't seem to evolve and how he can't consider other motivations for lfishcl saying he didn't play with Ghug.

I don't know if Fox is buddying me, but it's working, I don't want to kill him anymore

##vote Bozo

[BesharamSabi]

Sabi, in your overnight reads list, you had:
2 null-scum
8 null
6 null-town

Given that there are 6 scum, then assuming your two null scum reads are indeed scum, 4 of your null reads would also be scum (or null-town reads).

If you were surprised Durga was scum and you listed her as null, who would NOT surprise you if they flipped scum? If your reads are true and your surprise is genuine, then you have a very inaccurate view of the gamestate right now

Hi Squigs,

I think my friendship with durga probably played into the fact I didn't think she would ever be scum. Out of the nulls, I probably had here in bottom half of expecting that from her.

who would NOT surprise you if they flipped scum

Well I mean I won't bring up snowy again for the 50th time. I think bozo or lfischl would not surprise me if they flipped to scum at this point. Both were [null-null] rated.

If I go by [null-town] rated I would be not surprise by Flum flipping scum. I am coming around to a few of yalls theorys on him. Durga being frustrated by his play seems like a teammate that was mad.

[brainbomb]

##vote BesharamSabi

[snowy801]

Pretty dead gaem eh?

rivera how do you feel about Macca and TFB?

[TheMadMonarch]

macca do you feel any way about the late attempt to kill you d1? any thoughts on the players who pushed your wagon while you werent around ?

Eh...

I usually assume that I have been acting scummy, so I'm not too worried about people scumreading me.

Looking back, seeing that it was Durga (scumbo) with squiggs and ghug... idk, maybe something. espec with ghug being now where he is.

[TheMadMonarch]

If I die, kill ghug

done.

##VOTE ghug