MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[Fluminator]

Multi mafia game, a game where there are more then one Mafia team.

Wait there's two scum teams wtf

How many pseudo "townslips" have this game?

Thinking this is a townslip might be a townslip

[kgray]

Wait there's two scum teams wtf

How many pseudo "townslips" have this game?

Thinking this is a townslip might be a townslip

That's weird, for a second I was worried about the opposite

[Fluminator]

How many pseudo "townslips" have this game?

Thinking this is a townslip might be a townslip

That's weird, for a second I was worried about the opposite

If that's the case, then you just townslipped while rdr scumslipped

[kgray]

Thinking this is a townslip might be a townslip

That's weird, for a second I was worried about the opposite

If that's the case, then you just townslipped while rdr scumslipped

wat. this is too much

[Bonatogether]

How did a Gen Z stumble upon this forsaken place?
What part of mafia appeals to you the most?

i'm gen z lmao

Same question to you

i looked up diplomacy and this was first

solving

[Bonatogether]

i'm gen z lmao

Same question to you

A friend got me into diplomacy in general, then I joined brain's server and started playing discord/forum mafia

i got you to play forum mafia back in the other double team game

[brainbomb]

glad to know mafia remains mafia

Man I wasn't even getting heated . I thought Eden was in aggressive shittalk mode and joined him there, and then he flipped out at me.

Eden, I'm not trying to make the game miserable for you. I do find it frustrating that you seem to focus more on generating content than on making any of it accurate. Reading pages of it saps me of my energy, and I don't feel like I can derive any value from reading it beyond forming opinions on you.

I do find this post by ghug to be more town than scum. most of his posts do not feel agenda laden. I can talk about more of them but ghug is not pinging me right now.

his willingness to interpret durga town read on me, and to offer opinion that he finds that odd.

his wading into the shit fire on sabi and eden

the consistent presence and general tone seems fine

[Fluminator]

That's weird, for a second I was worried about the opposite

If that's the case, then you just townslipped while rdr scumslipped

wat. this is too much

All the PMs mention there being two factions, but the vanilla one is the only one where someone not reading the setup might incorrectly conclude it's one terrorist team with a long name. "you win when Ezic and the Kolechian Terrorsts are eliminated"

RdR thinks it's a townslip which I might agree with, but if he was mafia he would have read the town PM and see two mafia teams in it and not make the connection someone like snowy could "townslip" off that. (Because he would assume townies would read that thinking there are two teams)

Obviously he thinks snowy might be faking this townslip and this doesn't say much about snowy's alignment, but thinking this is a "townslip" looks pretty good on RDR imo.

Discuss

[ghug]

By gawds, is that lfischl actually playing the game?

Must be scum

How much of a joke is this? Or should I take this seriously?

It's weird, but the only time I can remember him contributing at all, he was town.

[brainbomb]

so heres a weird tinfoil for ya

lfischl and bona are scum on the same team and lfischl is just voting bona because its easy and its what he usually does so he can pass by today

[brainbomb]

reading lfischl it looks like he felt required to vote bona and it just kinda kept on going

[ghug]

Yes. You, snowy, kgray, Sabi.

Can you elaborate on kgray? I like kgrays posts from skimming but not much more than a lean so far

Basically she spent a decent amount of time pushing Eden for glossing over Sabi’s townslip. When in reality, Eden was like the first person to account for it it out and clearly changed his reads because of it.

I don’t think kgray was making a fake read, I think she was genuinely pushing Eden for reasons she thought were correct at the time. Scum kgray probably would have done a little more homework before pushing Eden there and would have noticed that her argument held little weight.

I like the conclusion but not the intermediate steps.

[ghug]

Can you elaborate on kgray? I like kgrays posts from skimming but not much more than a lean so far

Basically she spent a decent amount of time pushing Eden for glossing over Sabi’s townslip. When in reality, Eden was like the first person to account for it it out and clearly changed his reads because of it.

I don’t think kgray was making a fake read, I think she was genuinely pushing Eden for reasons she thought were correct at the time. Scum kgray probably would have done a little more homework before pushing Eden there and would have noticed that her argument held little weight.

Eden: kgray is too bad to be town

Tom: kgray is too bad to be mafia

Eden: ghug is being so mean to me that I'm going to verbally abuse him and quit the game.

Tom: ghug wasn't mean enough to Eden.

I know how you feel.

[brainbomb]

How do we know bona is useless?

The whole point of Bona is to give everyone +1. Due to dictator and worst gm of mafia history Jamiet decision to ban +1s except for his posts, Bona is pointless. What use does Bona provide besides shit posts?

Also glad to see you are actively playing.

Not super familiar with you tho.

How do you describe your play style?

I feel like there's no point of voting Bona out if we have no reason to. If he doesn't do shit and we have no one else to vote then we can, but not D1 i'd say.

[ghug]

while we have everyone here is ghug town?

Yes

[ghug]

I kinda think he is - but why isnt he?

I do think he was buddying me with the Eden thing, and there's 6 scumbos and I have a lot of other townreads, so chances seem good. But I doubt I'd ever get a townread on him early in the game, so I'm not really counting on this. Also maybe he actually feels bad about irritating me in the last game we played together.

Why do you kinda think he's town?

Ok for real we have the same opinions on things when we're at each other's throats. It's not anything-indicative.

[brainbomb]

I dont know if I ever asked this in any game

would you rather win alongside players you dislike: and see them rewarded and lauded as great at the game?

or lose a game getting rid of those players, but coming really close without them still in the game?

or win a game, just barely, by eliminating several people you find irritating; and getting lucky at the end?

[ghug]

I dont know if I ever asked this in any game

would you rather win alongside players you dislike: and see them rewarded and lauded as great at the game?

or lose a game getting rid of those players, but coming really close without them still in the game?

or win a game, just barely, by eliminating several people you find irritating; and getting lucky at the end?

Dead people win the game too. Policy elimination for me is more about game enjoyment or improving town's chances in the early going by removing players likely to cause losses.

[brainbomb]

to answer my own question there have been times that after my death I have wanted to see the people who wrongfully terminate me lose and I did derive joy from seeing pomposity fail.

but I also really love winning and I havent looked at the spreadsheet in ages but I used to have a high win % on here. I think I care less about winning now than I do about just playing well.

so for that purpose I feel that my own narcissim faded away.

does anyone feel like winning is more important than individual effort

[kgray]

If that's the case, then you just townslipped while rdr scumslipped

wat. this is too much

All the PMs mention there being two factions, but the vanilla one is the only one where someone not reading the setup might incorrectly conclude it's one terrorist team with a long name. "you win when Ezic and the Kolechian Terrorsts are eliminated"

RdR thinks it's a townslip which I might agree with, but if he was mafia he would have read the town PM and see two mafia teams in it and not make the connection someone like snowy could "townslip" off that. (Because he would assume townies would read that thinking there are two teams)

Obviously he thinks snowy might be faking this townslip and this doesn't say much about snowy's alignment, but thinking this is a "townslip" looks pretty good on RDR imo.

Discuss

idk Flum I didn't read all the PMs and I don't really have much to discuss here... I guess I'll think about this more later if you think it's really important but my instinct was that snowy "revealed" that he didn't know about the basic setup but that it didn't say anything about his alignment, so Rivera saying it was a townslip made me think Rivera might have gotten a scum PM