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Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

#81 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am

lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm
First

##ask gm

Why tf is rule 10 back? This is why I said you were the worst gm. Even worse than eden which is hard to do.

The whole point of mafia is to mine karma. Anyway if there's no karma to mine than no reason to keep Bona alive. As per tradition my first vote is for Bona because he's useless without the +1 mining.

##VOTE Bona

Bing bong
How do we know bona is useless?
They don't Bona is great. Very good guy in that game where I was the JOAT.

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#82 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:58 am
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm
First

##ask gm

Why tf is rule 10 back? This is why I said you were the worst gm. Even worse than eden which is hard to do.

The whole point of mafia is to mine karma. Anyway if there's no karma to mine than no reason to keep Bona alive. As per tradition my first vote is for Bona because he's useless without the +1 mining.

##VOTE Bona

Bing bong
How do we know bona is useless?
lfischl exceeding participation expectations.
heh. sorry if this sounds a little ironic but I would like to hear from ChrisVis at least once while he is here. I believe bona also said this.

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#83 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm
First

##ask gm

Why tf is rule 10 back? This is why I said you were the worst gm. Even worse than eden which is hard to do.

The whole point of mafia is to mine karma. Anyway if there's no karma to mine than no reason to keep Bona alive. As per tradition my first vote is for Bona because he's useless without the +1 mining.

##VOTE Bona

Bing bong
How do we know bona is useless?
They don't Bona is great. Very good guy in that game where I was the JOAT.
when was that?

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#84 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:59 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:57 am
captainmeme wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:18 pm
yo how does this game work again
Meme exceeds participation expectations.
Expect him to disappoint over the next three days, unless your expectation is zero, in which case he'll rise to meet those expectations with aplomb.
Yeah, I'm saying he already exceeded them.

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#85 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am

++ MINISTRY of ADMINISTRATION ++
+++ OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.1 +++

Bonatogether(3) - BesharamSabi, Lfischl, Ghug
BesharamSabi(1) - President Eden
Ghug(1) - Kgray
ChrisVis(1) - Bonatogether
Foxcastle(1) - Brainbomb
Brainbomb(1) - Damo666

No-Kill(1) - Captainmeme

Bonatogether is scheduled to be taken to the gulag.

Just under 46 hours remain in Day 1.
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#86 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 pm


How do we know bona is useless?
They don't Bona is great. Very good guy in that game where I was the JOAT.
when was that?
A few games ago. the one where I was active I think

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#87 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:04 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
President Eden wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:51 am
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:45 am
In regards to how would town/mafia respond: I honestly think neither groups would respond to those questions in any meaningful way because they come off as shit post questions. I only sent those questions to try to get you to contribute something to the game. You did do that by sending me questions right back.
What have I contributed to the game, in your estimation?
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:45 am
In regards to scum teams knowing identities I am sure both teams do. At least that’s what I got from quickly skimming the roles description.
To be more clear, is it your belief that the Ezic Star Order members know the identities of the Kolechian Terrorist members, and vice versa?
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:45 am
In regards to what I want to know: how do both scum teams decide on who will be night kill or is it two night kills or does the gm pick one at random?
Traditionally, and as I understand from setup review, both teams have a nightkill. Their motivations for their nightkill shift a bit, as brainbomb noted earlier, because they have to manage the strength of a different mafia team as well as the town.
In regards to contributing to the game: a series of never ending questions to me and not one deez nutz reference which is amazing.

In regards to ezics and kolechian teams knowing each other, also yes.

I'm regards to how kills are set up: So there is two night kills but town only gets one day kill? That seems a bit unfair to me. What is the lylo/kylo math on how many miskills town is allowed before we are fucked?
Sabi, do you consider yourself capable of faking a townslip?

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#88 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:04 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am


They don't Bona is great. Very good guy in that game where I was the JOAT.
when was that?
A few games ago. the one where I was active I think
M70

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#89 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:05 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am


They don't Bona is great. Very good guy in that game where I was the JOAT.
when was that?
A few games ago. the one where I was active I think
M70 I think

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#90 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:05 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:58 am
lfischl wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 pm


How do we know bona is useless?
lfischl exceeding participation expectations.
heh. sorry if this sounds a little ironic but I would like to hear from ChrisVis at least once while he is here. I believe bona also said this.
chris is a certifiable nerd

he's playing age of empires 2 according to discord

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#91 Post by President Eden » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:06 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
In regards to contributing to the game: a series of never ending questions to me and not one deez nutz reference which is amazing.
What does it mean to you to contribute, then? Because it’s certainly possible to ask a bunch of questions and not come to any conclusions, which I wouldn’t consider a contribution.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
I’m regards to how kills are set up: So there is two night kills but town only gets one day kill? That seems a bit unfair to me. What is the lylo/kylo math on how many miskills town is allowed before we are fucked?
I’m not sure. The numbers get tricky when multiple factions are involved, because each faction competes against each other as well as the town. We could plausibly end a day without a majority and then still win handily if the mafia shoot each other. For instance, we could lose our majority as soon as Day 3 (two misses plus a missed dayvig), but the mafia would almost certainly care more about ridding the game of each other than the remaining town at that point.

The mafia also meaningfully lack perfect information, so their control over the pace of the game is far from assured.

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#92 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am

President Eden wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:06 am
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
In regards to contributing to the game: a series of never ending questions to me and not one deez nutz reference which is amazing.
What does it mean to you to contribute, then? Because it’s certainly possible to ask a bunch of questions and not come to any conclusions, which I wouldn’t consider a contribution.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
I’m regards to how kills are set up: So there is two night kills but town only gets one day kill? That seems a bit unfair to me. What is the lylo/kylo math on how many miskills town is allowed before we are fucked?
I’m not sure. The numbers get tricky when multiple factions are involved, because each faction competes against each other as well as the town. We could plausibly end a day without a majority and then still win handily if the mafia shoot each other. For instance, we could lose our majority as soon as Day 3 (two misses plus a missed dayvig), but the mafia would almost certainly care more about ridding the game of each other than the remaining town at that point.

The mafia also meaningfully lack perfect information, so their control over the pace of the game is far from assured.
wait there's a dayvig?

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#93 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:05 am
lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am


when was that?
A few games ago. the one where I was active I think
M70 I think
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#94 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:04 am
lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:01 am


when was that?
A few games ago. the one where I was active I think
M70
was that the one where worcej docsaved me?

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#95 Post by President Eden » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:09 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am
wait there’s a dayvig?
The Border Guard is a one-shot day vigilante, yes.

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#96 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:09 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am
President Eden wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:06 am
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
In regards to contributing to the game: a series of never ending questions to me and not one deez nutz reference which is amazing.
What does it mean to you to contribute, then? Because it’s certainly possible to ask a bunch of questions and not come to any conclusions, which I wouldn’t consider a contribution.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:00 am
I’m regards to how kills are set up: So there is two night kills but town only gets one day kill? That seems a bit unfair to me. What is the lylo/kylo math on how many miskills town is allowed before we are fucked?
I’m not sure. The numbers get tricky when multiple factions are involved, because each faction competes against each other as well as the town. We could plausibly end a day without a majority and then still win handily if the mafia shoot each other. For instance, we could lose our majority as soon as Day 3 (two misses plus a missed dayvig), but the mafia would almost certainly care more about ridding the game of each other than the remaining town at that point.

The mafia also meaningfully lack perfect information, so their control over the pace of the game is far from assured.
wait there's a dayvig?
show of hands, who else didn't read the setup?

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#97 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:09 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:08 am
lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:04 am
lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am


A few games ago. the one where I was active I think
M70
was that the one where worcej docsaved me?
yeah I think so.

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#98 Post by President Eden » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:10 am

##UNVOTE
##VOTE Durga

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#99 Post by lfischl » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:11 am

President Eden wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:10 am
##UNVOTE
##VOTE Durga
why?

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#100 Post by President Eden » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:14 am

lfischl wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:11 am
President Eden wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:10 am
##UNVOTE
##VOTE Durga
why?
This vote increases my odds of voting for mafia from 0% to not-0%.

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