M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2781 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm

DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:16 pm
if there's four scum and we vote no kill we die
if there's three scum and we vote no kill we lose a MK for no reason
You're right sorry. I miscounted.
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#2782 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:08 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:58 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 pm


Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.
this post is beyond scummy
Which part? Why?
the whole post, just cause i can't fathom why a town player makes this post

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#2783 Post by damo666 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:20 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:15 pm
A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners

SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo Bona
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona
Tidied this up.

0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs
2 darg, DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona
what does this mean?
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
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#2784 Post by damo666 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:27 pm

* efficient
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#2785 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:29 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:11 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:10 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm


For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.
i scum you now
Ah, ok... I retract that bit of evidence.
You thought I WAS townie though... why did you change your mind?
you were townie with your wallposts, but saying on a possible lylo that the exact behavior is one that produces lots of miskills is really like, not a comment i see town making?

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#2786 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:30 pm

DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:13 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:12 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:47 pm
why are you just quoting this post? did you change something that i haven't noticed?
sabi's pronouns
oh

sorry @sabi
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#2787 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:31 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:13 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:10 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm


For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.
i scum you now
Let me rephrase... You saw my N's discussion as townie, and expressed joy in it. Ok, that's an overstatement. But I am defending my 'style,' and you thought at first that it was ok, right?
i saw the effort and thought process as town indicative. you haven't replicated that

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#2788 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:31 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:15 pm
Discussion point:

It might be MyLo right now.

Is there a case for voting No Kill?
no

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#2789 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:33 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:20 pm


Tidied this up.

0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs
2 darg, DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona
what does this mean?
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
Even if your methodology is sound (haven't checked), I don't think this a good metric to vote by. Vote for scum

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#2790 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:36 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:20 pm


Tidied this up.

0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs
2 darg, DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona
what does this mean?
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
isn't this pretty biased against people who have been wagons in the past?
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#2791 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:37 pm

also, if you think bozo and bona are unlikely scum, what do you make of the EODs likely being TvTvT?
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#2792 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:40 pm

can someone point me to a past damo game where he was making these kinds of posts? still don't get the metareads
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#2793 Post by ghug » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:42 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:15 pm
Discussion point:

It might be MyLo right now.

Is there a case for voting No Kill?
It can't be MILO

(PSA the Y's in these are all the second letter in a word we no longer use (though actually this one was always an I))
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#2794 Post by ghug » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:16 pm
if there's four scum and we vote no kill we die
if there's three scum and we vote no kill we lose a MK for no reason
You're right sorry. I miscounted.
Is it stupid that I want to townread you for this?
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#2795 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:51 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:11 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:18 pm


What are the connections between darg and damo/bozo?
It's more the lack of connections, I guess. Darg fits in a scumteam with damo/bozo (and several others) because he doesn't have any interactions that prevent him from being teammates with them
You do not think folk can (or do) bus? (I am not responding to your idea of my possible teammates... but rather about the premise of your list.

If you are simply grabbing at what info we DO have in a vanilla game, I get it. But it seems you are exaggerating the 'sureness' of it.
Bussing certainly can and does happen, but there are certain interactions or pushes that are less likely to be SvS based on when votes are placed, reasoning given, length of an argument, how genuine posts feel, etc.
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#2796 Post by damo666 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm

DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm

what does this mean?
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
isn't this pretty biased against people who have been wagons in the past?
other way round if anything
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#2797 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:16 pm
if there's four scum and we vote no kill we die
if there's three scum and we vote no kill we lose a MK for no reason
You're right sorry. I miscounted.
Is it stupid that I want to townread you for this?
No, but, is it stupid I want to townread DL for responding so quickly to correct me? (When what I was mistakenly proposing would, if anything, have been to scum's benefit).
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#2798 Post by damo666 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:33 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm

what does this mean?
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
Even if your methodology is sound (haven't checked), I don't think this a good metric to vote by. Vote for scum
I believe I am
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#2799 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm


It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).

The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
isn't this pretty biased against people who have been wagons in the past?
other way round if anything
Yeah I meant biased against targeting people who have been wagons (so like implicitly townreading them more)
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#2800 Post by damo666 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm

DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:37 pm
also, if you think bozo and bona are unlikely scum, what do you make of the EODs likely being TvTvT?
Yes I think they probably were
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