M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[DeathLlama8]

As a general response to those who said I was "tunneling" Squigs and ghug, I realize my theory could be wrong, but I still think it is suspicious they both think all the scum are among those who had D1 wagons.

Do you think scum!squigs and scum!ghug would be this blatant about it?

My theory is that ghug posted reads similar to Squigs based on plans they made N1 to target town players who were under suspicion D1, and he did not realizing he was posting something so similar to Squigs, so no, I do not think they would be so blatant deliberately.

I agree that it wouldn't be deliberate, but IMO scum would want to avoid grouping themselves together like this and would be more careful if their partner had already posted reads

[President Eden]

snowy (4): jamie, damo, bona, sabi
bozo (4): squigs, ghug, celaph, llama
ghug (2): bozo, snowy
bona (1): darg

[bozotheclown]

Bona seems to be quite passive and just pleased to let the game go where it is going. Not sure where he is getting the idea to vote DL from, though I don't like it.

Regarding Damo, nothing feels that scummy here, but nothing feels overly towny. If I had to connect him to anyone it would be bozo and I outlined my thoughts on that above.

Updates from when I've posted this to now:
Damo slid slightly closer to town.

Bona slid more scum, but his recent posts have brought him back to roughly where he was. I'm liking seeing his thought process. I could be convinced of a case here, but would be resistant.

I have trouble telling with damo, but I do not see anything from his D2 that makes me think he is more likely town.

[Bonatogether]

snowy (4): jamie, damo, bona, sabi
bozo (4): squigs, ghug, celaph, llama
ghug (2): bozo, snowy
bona (1): darg

##vote bozo

i'm more sure about this nerd

[ghug]

I know I am town and I believe snowy is town, so for Squigs and ghug to be correct, the scum team would have to be Bonatogether, damo, and celaph, which is not impossible.

Jamie was in my list. I'm also leaning town on damo now.

If I am the DK and you find out I am town, what will your POE be then?

Pretty similar. I'd have to contemplate whether snowy was saved.

[snowy801]

Fuck it whatever ##vote ghug

Game's in your hands, people, do with it what you will
I'm going to go answer DL's question or something

wdym you already did?

You asked me why I changed my opinion on you. Do you not want that answer? I've got tons of other things to be doing right now if so

[celaph]

Maybe I just have blindfolds on for bozo but his ISO reads fine

The only arguably sus part is from 5 hours out to EoD1 past both phase changes where it's consecutive excuses for extended absences which feels kinda weird, but M70 he was scum with me and also asked for excusing as he is simply too busy and I don't imagine why he'd like to me in mafqt so I figure it's plausible

It's not like you guys particularly town read town!bozo either. I recall it was an epic struggle to get you people off him in M69, y'all do him dirty sometimes

I don't think his arguments are weak at all, it just comes from a different mindset than what some of you use. Do you think scum!bozo manufactured a read where he simulates the possibility of two people having a mafqt discussion, then inadvertently using the ideas inside and independently converging on reads as a sign that the share a private room? I think it shows creativity and active thinking, for all that the end result appears fairly simple.

I can't get a read if I think this is authentic or if Snowy is trying to get townread for townread his cw. Any comments?

[DeathLlama8]

oh that one

feel free to finish your damo iso first, kinda curious why you townread him

[bozotheclown]

Do you think scum!squigs and scum!ghug would be this blatant about it?

My theory is that ghug posted reads similar to Squigs based on plans they made N1 to target town players who were under suspicion D1, and he did not realizing he was posting something so similar to Squigs, so no, I do not think they would be so blatant deliberately.

I agree that it wouldn't be deliberate, but IMO scum would want to avoid grouping themselves together like this and would be more careful if their partner had already posted reads

Enough players have stated that opinion that I realize it is the prevalent opinion among town members (and mafia members also).

[Bonatogether]

Maybe I just have blindfolds on for bozo but his ISO reads fine

The only arguably sus part is from 5 hours out to EoD1 past both phase changes where it's consecutive excuses for extended absences which feels kinda weird, but M70 he was scum with me and also asked for excusing as he is simply too busy and I don't imagine why he'd like to me in mafqt so I figure it's plausible

It's not like you guys particularly town read town!bozo either. I recall it was an epic struggle to get you people off him in M69, y'all do him dirty sometimes

I don't think his arguments are weak at all, it just comes from a different mindset than what some of you use. Do you think scum!bozo manufactured a read where he simulates the possibility of two people having a mafqt discussion, then inadvertently using the ideas inside and independently converging on reads as a sign that the share a private room? I think it shows creativity and active thinking, for all that the end result appears fairly simple.

I can't get a read if I think this is authentic or if Snowy is trying to get townread for townread his cw. Any comments?

make your own reads lmao

[ghug]

Maybe I just have blindfolds on for bozo but his ISO reads fine

The only arguably sus part is from 5 hours out to EoD1 past both phase changes where it's consecutive excuses for extended absences which feels kinda weird, but M70 he was scum with me and also asked for excusing as he is simply too busy and I don't imagine why he'd like to me in mafqt so I figure it's plausible

It's not like you guys particularly town read town!bozo either. I recall it was an epic struggle to get you people off him in M69, y'all do him dirty sometimes

I don't think his arguments are weak at all, it just comes from a different mindset than what some of you use. Do you think scum!bozo manufactured a read where he simulates the possibility of two people having a mafqt discussion, then inadvertently using the ideas inside and independently converging on reads as a sign that the share a private room? I think it shows creativity and active thinking, for all that the end result appears fairly simple.

I can't get a read if I think this is authentic or if Snowy is trying to get townread for townread his cw. Any comments?

I think it could be either. It's a strategy to get towncred because it's something a good town player will do. Giving up so quickly and moving back to me feels fake, though.

[President Eden]

bozo (5): squigs, ghug, celaph, llama, bona
snowy (3): jamie, damo, sabi
ghug (2): bozo, snowy
bona (1): darg

[bozotheclown]

I know I am town and I believe snowy is town, so for Squigs and ghug to be correct, the scum team would have to be Bonatogether, damo, and celaph, which is not impossible.

Jamie was in my list. I'm also leaning town on damo now.

I am I your top scum read?

[Squigs44]

I'm driving but I should be home by EoD. Reading but can't post much. Bozo is really sticking to his guns while Snowy continues to come up with posts explaining why he can't give a solid read instead of building a convincing case. And before you say you don't need a case, look what happened with your vibe induced DL read. It evaporated when you did try to find a case

[Squigs44]

##vote Snowy

[Jamiet99uk]

What do you make of Jamie? Do you associate his focus today with a towny who feels they've caught scum or scum trying to push for a miskill? Of those two choices, I favor the latter.

If I was scum pushing for a plausible mis-kill why would I target Snowy out of all the available options?

I think it's possible he is the target because you know that you can make a valid argument against him. I also just noticed I wrote latter instead of former in my original message. I meant to say that I think you're more likely town who thinks he caught scum. Apologies for the error.

That's quite an important correction!!

[ghug]

I know I am town and I believe snowy is town, so for Squigs and ghug to be correct, the scum team would have to be Bonatogether, damo, and celaph, which is not impossible.

Jamie was in my list. I'm also leaning town on damo now.

I am I your top scum read?

Not especially. I don't have a super strong preference within my pool.

##VOTE snowy

[snowy801]

oh that one

feel free to finish your damo iso first, kinda curious why you townread him

The vast majority of my reads is still strictly based on tone and vibes, whether you all like it or not

Specifically, I quite liked how he handled EoD1 and his subsequent comments on it after the flip. He said he didn't like any of the wagons, tried to flash Sabi (poorly, albeit) when it was clear nobody really had an appetite for them except maaaybe Jamiet, asked for reasons for the current wagon [I do this a lot as town and think it's quite town indicative] and just generally showed the kind of hesitant town inquisitiveness when faced with a number of wagons you disagree with but can't get your own going.

For a specific example. It's mostly tone

[ghug]

Oh Squigs did it first ##VOTE bozo

[DeathLlama8]

Oh Squigs did it first ##VOTE bozo

lmao what