M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2141 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:57 pm

celaph wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:49 pm
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Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:15 am
bozotheclown wrote:
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All this distancing from damo but you won't vote him.
He townreads me for questionable reasons and you call it distancing?

I'd like today to be between three of snowy/you/Jamie/bona/damo/celaph, and I'm content focusing on whichever of those are getting less attention for the time being.
What do you make of Jamie? Do you associate his focus today with a towny who feels they've caught scum or scum trying to push for a miskill? Of those two choices, I favor the latter.
If I was scum pushing for a plausible mis-kill why would I target Snowy out of all the available options?
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#2142 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:58 pm

celaph wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:57 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:48 am
##VOTE Squigs

Beside the foodcoats NK, having the same POE (containing what I suspect to be primarily town) as ghug is suspicious.
Wait. You see ghug and Squigs having similar POE lists with ghug's coming 90 minutes AFTER Squig's and you see Squigs as the suspicious one in that exchange? This argument makes no sense.
This was my point as well.
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#2143 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:59 pm

Squigs: Posts reads list.

Ghug (later on): Posts similar reads list.

Bozo: THAT WAS SCUMMY OF YOU, SQUIGS.
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#2144 Post by Squigs44 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:00 pm

celaph wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:31 pm
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Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:15 am
Bozo has increased his activity since day 1, but I don't like that he hasn't pushed an actual case yet this game
Reading ahead in Bozo's iso, it seems he pushes a case on Damo shortly after this. Do you think that your post is related to that push?


@bozo, before this I saw you interacting with a lot of people other than Damo before defaulting back to your earlier read (don't particularly blame you as Damo wasn't the most active). Did your read on any of the people you were interacting with earlier change.
I dont think it's as simple as Bozo trying to appease me, no, but maybe my post had some influence on him reflecting on his own play so far, which caused an adjustment.

Bozo has made more of a concerted effort to push cases/reasoning since then, but I don't think those pushes are particularly strong or convincing

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#2145 Post by celaph » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:01 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:26 am
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Not voting early's going to fuck me isn't it

Sigh
vote dl
Can you explain to me your case on DL?

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#2146 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:05 pm

DL is just so conspicuously absent though

You'd think he'd give more of a shit

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#2147 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:08 pm

so ghug do you scum read anyone outside bona/bozo?

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#2148 Post by ghug » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:10 pm

snowy801 wrote:
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so ghug do you scum read anyone outside bona/bozo?
I'm pretty confident you know the answer to this question.

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#2149 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:10 pm

Your confidence is misplaced

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#2150 Post by ghug » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:12 pm

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Your confidence is misplaced
Why these two when I last mentioned celaph in the same breath?

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#2151 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:14 pm

Oh did you

I'm halfway through your ISO and working off memory

Found the post, my b

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#2152 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:16 pm

Sure does seem to be a lot of people scum reading bona. Slightly cautious because that does seem to happen like every game, but I wasn't one of them before

Is it a good thing? Who knows

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#2153 Post by ghug » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:18 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:16 pm
Sure does seem to be a lot of people scum reading bona. Slightly cautious because that does seem to happen like every game, but I wasn't one of them before

Is it a good thing? Who knows
Nobody scumreads ghug? Must be scum.
Everybody scumreads bona? Must be scum.

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#2154 Post by Squigs44 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:21 pm

Celaph, you gonna vote soon?

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#2155 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:21 pm

Didn't say that. I was implying that the multitude of scum reads is reminiscent of prior games where he was unfairly maligned, with the only change for this game being my own read

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#2156 Post by ghug » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:23 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:21 pm
Didn't say that. I was implying that the multitude of scum reads is reminiscent of prior games where he was unfairly maligned, with the only change for this game being my own read
I know. I actually feel pretty similarly.

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#2157 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:23 pm

You know I feel like I didn't used to have to be so explicit in every suggestion I make. Is this a new thing or am I just nuts?

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#2158 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:24 pm

attempting to organize my thoughts

sabi: different sabi, but townslips incredibly hard like every phase - don't kill, will slip up if scum

bona: food soulread is honestly the smartest thing that's been said wrt me

bozo: this doesn't feel like town!bozo, but it's also not scum!bozo from m70. Imo, this is scum!bozo who's learned that he's easily nailable on meta but still figuring out how to play in the new way

celaph: man this guy is feeling weird to me. he's back to serious, wallposting celaph, but it feels offbeat, like i'll see something and i'll think 'celaph will probably have something interesting to say about this, so i'll wait for that', but it's really not happening in the same pattern that i'm used to town!celaph doing. HOWEVER, the analysis has read like solid celaph. Maybe it's just that i haven't played with him in a long time, but i'm still ambivalent about giving a read one way or the other

damo: i was gonna put null/town, but i reread this nerd and some things immediately stood out to me. this and the caveat. scumlean

deathllama: ha ha copy paste go brrr

ghug: strange goog is strange. possibly scum? possibly town. idfk

jamie: should watch a basketball game, has gotten in dumb fights, probably town. ALSO this is a really weird pair of posts: here and here but idk if it's AI

snowy: i gotta say i agree with jamie here. most plays are 1 level deep and so most analysis should be put at that level. 2nd+ levels get really weird and into doing things backwards to go forwards, which, if there's more than 1 way to do things, sure, but as town there is one thing to do: ensure scum get killed. very strange

squoogs: idk how this guy operates but i appreciate bozo calling him out for misrepresentation of scum games, which is a major scumtick, imo. also vibes\

darg: forgettable, which is sad cause i normally like darg. worcej was feeling town, especially by getting into dumb fights. i did a reread and learned nothing cause he has 22 posts (eden has 28). idk

people are listed in no particular order (at least not consiously)

townlean: sabi, celaph, ghug, jamie
undecided: darg, snowy
scum: squoogs, dl, damo, bozo

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#2159 Post by snowy801 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:25 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:23 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:21 pm
Didn't say that. I was implying that the multitude of scum reads is reminiscent of prior games where he was unfairly maligned, with the only change for this game being my own read
I know. I actually feel pretty similarly.
I actually kind of said to myself that the way EoD1 ended up being said town!bona to me, though I didn't do a deep dive or anything

Too many moving pieces to really be a fake bus -> saving throw at the end, especially if I consider DL to be towny

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#2160 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:27 pm

celaph wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:26 am
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:26 am
Not voting early's going to fuck me isn't it

Sigh
vote dl
Can you explain to me your case on DL?
interacted a lot with snowy d1 but didn't put a read out on him until his n1 readslist (ie, not snowy-specific)

never directly mentions sqoogs

vca lines up strongly with him defending one of snowy/sqoogs

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