M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

@Sabi with all your questionning/hunting what is your best guess at the scumteam then?

[damo666]

If they were going for good players to kill wouldn't it have been you or Jamie?

Nobody thinks I am a good player.

Jamie does doesn't he?

[ghug]

##VOTE bozo

Reason?

I wanted a new wagon. You, Jamie, and celaph were all options.

[ghug]

I guess you would have killed me then ?!

I think this smacks of a townghug comment.

I'm always happy to kill you.

confirms ghug is town

Why?

[DeathLlama8]

jamiet - now that the whole b line thing has been cleared up, how do you feel about Snowy's EOD1?

I wouldn't say it's entirely cleared up but Snowy has stated that my interpretation was not the correct interpretation of that statement. He didn't explain what his actual meaning was.

Nonetheless:

1. Snowy apparently didn't scumread Bo, yet he asked if people would be willing to vote for Bo, he joined the Bo wagon (that you started), and he expressed disappointment when, for a brief time, the Bo wagon lost traction.

2. Snowy apparently had at least a weak scumread on Bona as EoD approached, and he wanted the Bona wagon to have traction, yet when the Bona wagon became the lead wagon Snowy didn't re-join it, and instead stayed on Bo_Sox who he didn't scumread.

- I think the b-line thing was just a joke fwiw. Bona's also in that list and obviously snowy was cool with a bona wagon
- IIRC snowy (at least outwardly) believed that bona/bo were both weak scumreads? if bona flips scum obviously this becomes way more sus but idt it's that bad on its own

[DeathLlama8]

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Might indicate a snowy/ghug scumpair?

"mafia thought foodcoats was good" is all the nk analysis I am willing to do

[ghug]

That was day 1. This is D2.

His very survival increases the likelihood he is scum (sorry snowy if you are town but there it is)

I didn't like his 'arrogance' answer.

Jamie's case has some merit.

He is a likely food killer.

Why is he a likely food killer? What's left of Jamie's case once you get rid of the b line thing?

Maybe you could read the response I posted to DL on the previous page?

I did. I don't agree with most of it, and I'd like to know what damo does agree with.

[DeathLlama8]

OK the game ended in a solo. Heres the game link lol (https://www.backstabbr.com/game/VDL-81- ... 8390282240)

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Yea but sprinkled between food sporadic random votes he offered solid analysis. If they were going for good players to kill wouldn't it have been you or Jamie? Since you and him have been solid about analysis and scum hunting.

if you really want to do nk analysis I remember you asking everyone except me who they would kill n1? I don't think it's a great use of time though

[DeathLlama8]

Why do you think today is so suppressed in activity and enthusiasm in comparison to yesterday?

Just a general question

I'm gming vdl virtual face to face so I'm focusing on the game and watching arsenal get slaughtered by Liverpool as well as watching college football. I'm quite overly stimulated but I'm trying my best to contribute to this as I have time.

I would like more responses and questions but no one is sending me stuff to talk about. Sad face emoji.

What are you up to today snowy?

<- is Gunner

scumslip??

[BesharamSabi]

@Sabi with all your questionning/hunting what is your best guess at the scumteam then?

Hmm basing off what my notes are saying:

Snowy damo bozo squigs is my best guess for the maximum of four scum.

Reasoning behind it I have seen Squigs argue and interact with most people except not much with snowy.

Snowy kept defending damo/bozo.

Foods might have a point about bozo trying to ATE us on day 1 to live another day as scum.

Snowy because I feel like he's trying to buddy me like in m70.

Squigs is the least scumread one because I keep flipping between scum and null with them.

[snowy801]

how do you find this information? just looking through games? I've tried that and it takes forever

There is a link on the bot to the "Updated Mafia Scoresheet" which is helpful, although it has not been updated recently.

My bad, I'll update after this game

I believe that Chaqa said he's working on an update, recommend coordinating with him

[Squigs44]

Why do you think today is so suppressed in activity and enthusiasm in comparison to yesterday?

Just a general question

Personally, I'm not at work trying to kill time. I actually do stuff on the weekends

[DeathLlama8]

You and Squigs were both in M39.

how do you find this information? just looking through games? I've tried that and it takes forever

There is a link on the bot to the "Updated Mafia Scoresheet" which is helpful, although it has not been updated recently.

TIL I played in m26

[Jamiet99uk]

If they were going for good players to kill wouldn't it have been you or Jamie?

Nobody thinks I am a good player.

Jamie does doesn't he?

I am aware of my limitations.

[damo666]

I'm always happy to kill you.

confirms ghug is town

Why?

Because I'm alive.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe you could read the response I posted to DL on the previous page?

I did. I don't agree with most of it, and I'd like to know what damo does agree with.

Why do you think Snowy is town?

[Squigs44]

@Sabi with all your questionning/hunting what is your best guess at the scumteam then?

Hmm basing off what my notes are saying:

Snowy damo bozo squigs is my best guess for the maximum of four scum.

Reasoning behind it I have seen Squigs argue and interact with most people except not much with snowy.

Snowy kept defending damo/bozo.

Foods might have a point about bozo trying to ATE us on day 1 to live another day as scum.

Snowy because I feel like he's trying to buddy me like in m70.

Squigs is the least scumread one because I keep flipping between scum and null with them.

Literally voting Snowy and he's the person I've commented on most D2, but okay.

[BesharamSabi]

@Sabi with all your questionning/hunting what is your best guess at the scumteam then?

Hmm basing off what my notes are saying:

Snowy damo bozo squigs is my best guess for the maximum of four scum.

Reasoning behind it I have seen Squigs argue and interact with most people except not much with snowy.

Snowy kept defending damo/bozo.

Foods might have a point about bozo trying to ATE us on day 1 to live another day as scum.

Snowy because I feel like he's trying to buddy me like in m70.

Squigs is the least scumread one because I keep flipping between scum and null with them.

Literally voting Snowy and he's the person I've commented on most D2, but okay.

Day 1 and Night 1 you two barely interacted. Am I wrong on this? You were questioning and hunting others a lot more.

It could just be bussing.

But I also said I scum read you the least out of the four.

[snowy801]

I'm gming vdl virtual face to face so I'm focusing on the game and watching arsenal get slaughtered by Liverpool as well as watching college football. I'm quite overly stimulated but I'm trying my best to contribute to this as I have time.

I would like more responses and questions but no one is sending me stuff to talk about. Sad face emoji.

What are you up to today snowy?

<- is Gunner

scumslip??

lmao

[Squigs44]

Okay, I'm caught up.

I've kinda touched on Snowy here and there, but I want to try to explain my full thought process on him since it's still forming as I answer yalls questions, think through EoD, and read his more recent posts.

So I think town Snowy is plausible. I made comments day 1 that I thought we should give Snowy more time and I thought being elusive was okay for the first bit of the game, because I have seen this tactic used by town and I think it can work. Nothing he has said/done has made me think that Snowy can't be town.

But scum Snowy is also very plausible. Being elusive and "playing with fire" gives scum a very nice excuse to not give up as much info day 1 and gives you an easy out if you ever come across pressure or a question you don't want to answer. It also would give scum Snowy an excuse for why he isn't NKd throughout the game.

So with both being plausible, for me it comes down to 2 things. The EoD, which I've already touched on - and which one feels more likely (based on vibes/tone/interactions with others).