M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[DeathLlama8]

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

[damo666]

@Sabi we cannot afford to kill 'for info'. We must kill scum.

Snowy or Bona my current best bets (apart from you lol).

[damo666]

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Might indicate a snowy/ghug scumpair?

[DeathLlama8]

@damo - why do you want snowy again? you straight up wouldn't vote for him yesterday and I didn't see any progression with reasons attached to it

[ghug]

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Might indicate a snowy/ghug scumpair?

I don't think food is good. (Sorry food, love you)

[ghug]

##VOTE bozo

[damo666]

@damo - why do you want snowy again? you straight up wouldn't vote for him yesterday and I didn't see any progression with reasons attached to it

That was day 1. This is D2.

His very survival increases the likelihood he is scum (sorry snowy if you are town but there it is)

I didn't like his 'arrogance' answer.

Jamie's case has some merit.

He is a likely food killer.

[ghug]

@damo - why do you want snowy again? you straight up wouldn't vote for him yesterday and I didn't see any progression with reasons attached to it

That was day 1. This is D2.

His very survival increases the likelihood he is scum (sorry snowy if you are town but there it is)

I didn't like his 'arrogance' answer.

Jamie's case has some merit.

He is a likely food killer.

Why is he a likely food killer? What's left of Jamie's case once you get rid of the b line thing?

[damo666]

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Might indicate a snowy/ghug scumpair?

I don't think food is good. (Sorry food, love you)

I guess you would have killed me then ?!

I think this smacks of a townghug comment.

[ghug]

Might indicate a snowy/ghug scumpair?

I don't think food is good. (Sorry food, love you)

I guess you would have killed me then ?!

I think this smacks of a townghug comment.

I'm always happy to kill you.

[damo666]

@damo - why do you want snowy again? you straight up wouldn't vote for him yesterday and I didn't see any progression with reasons attached to it

That was day 1. This is D2.

His very survival increases the likelihood he is scum (sorry snowy if you are town but there it is)

I didn't like his 'arrogance' answer.

Jamie's case has some merit.

He is a likely food killer.

Why is he a likely food killer? What's left of Jamie's case once you get rid of the b line thing?

I think most people would have killed you or snowy.

Apparent contradiction I think (I haven't reread tbh).

[damo666]

##VOTE bozo

Reason?

[damo666]

I don't think food is good. (Sorry food, love you)

I guess you would have killed me then ?!

I think this smacks of a townghug comment.

I'm always happy to kill you.

confirms ghug is town

[BesharamSabi]

OK the game ended in a solo. Heres the game link lol (https://www.backstabbr.com/game/VDL-81- ... 8390282240)

- I don't think mafia felt immediately threatened by foodcoats as he was shifting reads and votes around a lot. They probably just thought he was good
- I doubt Squigs is scum, and we also should not "kill for info"

Yea but sprinkled between food sporadic random votes he offered solid analysis. If they were going for good players to kill wouldn't it have been you or Jamie? Since you and him have been solid about analysis and scum hunting.

You and damo have the same important about no info kill

@Sabi we cannot afford to kill 'for info'. We must kill scum.

Snowy or Bona my current best bets (apart from you lol).

Never change damo, never change.

What good would you get from killing me? I have been trying to drive conversation in this game.

[Jamiet99uk]

@damo - why do you want snowy again? you straight up wouldn't vote for him yesterday and I didn't see any progression with reasons attached to it

That was day 1. This is D2.

His very survival increases the likelihood he is scum (sorry snowy if you are town but there it is)

I didn't like his 'arrogance' answer.

Jamie's case has some merit.

He is a likely food killer.

Why is he a likely food killer? What's left of Jamie's case once you get rid of the b line thing?

Maybe you could read the response I posted to DL on the previous page?

[Squigs44]

##vote Snowy

Once upon a time I called Snowy useless town, but on reread I'm not sure why I put Snowy at anything above null. That EoD was not a good look for Snowy, and so I think it's time for Snowy to stop being so elusive

Here was your reason:

OK now your turn. : )

Useless town candidate: Snowy. I think snowy is probably more likely town based on the abstract play, but it's so enigmatic and elusive that it's not good for town

Lurkers: Lurkers are fine to vote out and eliminate early, but there are usually better wagons. We shouldn't default to piling on lurkers as the wagonomics on that would be awful but it's not a huge loss if they get eliminated. I'd much rather find someone scummy than someone useless.

Info flip: I strongly disagree that lurkers give info. Info comes from interactions and wagonomics. You want someone that is polarizing. Someone who has been both attacked and defended and has both attacked and defended. Flipping counterwagons is usually good later but that doesn't apply here. So I would say right now Bona could be a good info flip. Bona has had 5 votes cast for, has casted 3 votes, has had some people offer defenses/explanations, and has interacted with a decent number of people in interesting ways.

What about D1 EOD do you think points to snowy being scum?

He facilitated the Bo wagon at EoD while also verbally pushing the Bona wagon, but not actually voting there. The reasoning for both wagons and why he preferred Bo over Bona was kinda misty, but seemed to be related more to wagonomics than an actual scumread. All of this equates to Snowy leading the miskill on Bo while hedging on other wagons/reads.

[Squigs44]

You and Squigs were both in M39.

how do you find this information? just looking through games? I've tried that and it takes forever

There is a link on the bot to the "Updated Mafia Scoresheet" which is helpful, although it has not been updated recently.

My bad, I'll update after this game

[Jamiet99uk]

If they were going for good players to kill wouldn't it have been you or Jamie?

Nobody thinks I am a good player.

[Jamiet99uk]

What about D1 EOD do you think points to snowy being scum?

He facilitated the Bo wagon at EoD while also verbally pushing the Bona wagon, but not actually voting there. The reasoning for both wagons and why he preferred Bo over Bona was kinda misty, but seemed to be related more to wagonomics than an actual scumread. All of this equates to Snowy leading the miskill on Bo while hedging on other wagons/reads.

Precisely.

[snowy801]

Why do you think today is so suppressed in activity and enthusiasm in comparison to yesterday?

Just a general question

I'm gming vdl virtual face to face so I'm focusing on the game and watching arsenal get slaughtered by Liverpool as well as watching college football. I'm quite overly stimulated but I'm trying my best to contribute to this as I have time.

I would like more responses and questions but no one is sending me stuff to talk about. Sad face emoji.

What are you up to today snowy?

<- is Gunner