M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

##vote bona

Is there any particular reason why or is this a joke vote?

I like the wagon

[DeathLlama8]

I don't? I've been saying it's more scummy if it's not, cause then it's sqoogs makings posts to look town in direct consequence of people wondering why he's not

sorry yeah that's what I meant
and idk even then it didn't really ping me as alignment indicative, it's not like ghug is going to scumread him based off his forgetting one detail from 2014

if it's not a crosspost, then town!sqoog makes the post he did in explicit reference to ghug's post unless he's just thinking weirdly, but, imo, scum!sqoog has an 'oh shit' moment when he sees ghug's post because the logical association (ghug = good hunter) doesn't make sense given their common experience (ghug = tunneller), but for whatever reason, he wants ghug to stay alive (which we can presume in this case, since he singled out ghug as a good scumhunter), so he needs to keep those two in alignment

this might be incomprehensible

yeah sorry the second part of that kinda is

I guess why do you think that looked like an "oh shit" reaction?

[Bonatogether]

Do you think I'm wrong that Bona is playing reactionary or just that town Bona usually plays reactionary? Would scum Bona not be reactionary?

Bona in general is reactionary. That's his baseline status outside of mafia as well. I only have played with town Bona so I can't say if scum Bona is also reactionary. Bona is just always reactionary because he's a literal child lol.

?

Bona you are very reactionary outside of mafia but all teens are because that's how yalls personality and thought process is. Just a normal teen thing to be. Don't worry.

i don't know what you mean

[BesharamSabi]

##vote bona

Is there any particular reason why or is this a joke vote?

I like the wagon

Any reason why this wagon made sense in your mind? Any post that rang the alarms?

[snowy801]

Is there any particular reason why or is this a joke vote?

I like the wagon

Any reason why this wagon made sense in your mind? Any post that rang the alarms?

Oh no let me be clear it's not that I particularly scum read bona I just like the wagoners

[ghug]

I hope Pete Carroll gets fired...

Not that football

Unpopular opinion: Soccer is fucking boring.

How do you feel about hockey?

[Squigs44]

Anything specific ping you that you could point me to?

Before my vote:
Reactions to bozo and bos votes first caught my eye, as well as being quick to jump on a Celaph joke and call it a scumslip and making sure everyone knew they didn't scumread Celaph.

After my vote:
The way he attacked me after I voted him
He agreed with a half-baked Bo idea which Bo rescinded then tried to push the idea that I wasn't cross posting

before:
jokes. nothing else to it lol

after:
it was an actual criticism - that you weren't doing anything but saying whoever was scummy for not doing anything

what? 3 people now have said the first post was weird (bo, me, worcej, in order), so it's clearly not some out of left field thing. It's also not clear to me that it was a crosspost, and I never really pushed it? I said it was a possibility (one that I think is likely) but I could see it being legit

Here's another reactionary post DL. It's Bona interjecting himself into conversations that call him scummy like this that feels so defensive.

As for the actual content of the post - and this is where I'll actually direct my conversation to Bona :

Maybe we just have different humor but still you were choosing to respond to posts that potentially made you look scummy instead of the countless other ways to express humor (my personal favorite is an attack on Bo)

I'm less concerned with the fact that you disagree with my opening post and more concerned with how you approached it. Again, you focused on discrediting me instead instead of perhaps asking why I voted you and addressing any misunderstandings (it took until DL came in to get to this point).
The whole crosspost thing again felt like a desperate way to discredit me instead of a well thought out idea. If you truly thought I was purposefully posting after seeing ghugs post I think you would have approached it differently.

[DeathLlama8]

##vote bo ##unend?

vibes are kinda off and scumhunt-tangential but I can't remember what they normally play like

[ghug]

I hope Pete Carroll gets fired...

Nah

Jerry Dipoto, though...

IDK man, Mariners have honestly been better under him than Zduriencik and Bavasi...

Honestly, the issue with the Mariners lately is the always lose too many dumb games and finish just barely out of the playoff race.

That's a low-ass bar.

[BesharamSabi]

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Bona you are very reactionary outside of mafia but all teens are because that's how yalls personality and thought process is. Just a normal teen thing to be. Don't worry.

i don't know what you mean

You haven't answered my previous question

[DeathLlama8]

Everything before your vote isn't really convincing to me tbh, it was pretty early and I think scum would be aware of that

I'm less concerned with the fact that you disagree with my opening post and more concerned with how you approached it. Again, you focused on discrediting me instead instead of perhaps asking why I voted you and addressing any misunderstandings (it took until DL came in to get to this point)

this part is a pretty reasonable point though

[BesharamSabi]

Snowy:

Anyones players read that you disagree with so far and why? It cnat be a read on yourself.

[Bonatogether]

sorry yeah that's what I meant
and idk even then it didn't really ping me as alignment indicative, it's not like ghug is going to scumread him based off his forgetting one detail from 2014

if it's not a crosspost, then town!sqoog makes the post he did in explicit reference to ghug's post unless he's just thinking weirdly, but, imo, scum!sqoog has an 'oh shit' moment when he sees ghug's post because the logical association (ghug = good hunter) doesn't make sense given their common experience (ghug = tunneller), but for whatever reason, he wants ghug to stay alive (which we can presume in this case, since he singled out ghug as a good scumhunter), so he needs to keep those two in alignment

this might be incomprehensible

yeah sorry the second part of that kinda is

I guess why do you think that looked like an "oh shit" reaction?

lemme rewrite this

ON ASSUMPITION THERE IS NO CROSSPOST:

town!sqoog:
doesn't have a reason to not reply to ghug's post about the game

scum!sqoog:
1) wants to keep ghug alive for some reason (singles him out as a one good scumhunter)
2) ghug asks why he has the association of good scumhunter, based on one game from a while back
3) sqoog sees it, realizes that this undercuts the narrative he's trying to set up, so he needs to show that there's no contradiction (the oh shit moment), so he says it, which smooths over the gap in the statements

[DeathLlama8]

uh that just seems like he'd say it as either alignment in a similar way?

[Bonatogether]

Before my vote:
Reactions to bozo and bos votes first caught my eye, as well as being quick to jump on a Celaph joke and call it a scumslip and making sure everyone knew they didn't scumread Celaph.

After my vote:
The way he attacked me after I voted him
He agreed with a half-baked Bo idea which Bo rescinded then tried to push the idea that I wasn't cross posting

before:
jokes. nothing else to it lol

after:
it was an actual criticism - that you weren't doing anything but saying whoever was scummy for not doing anything

what? 3 people now have said the first post was weird (bo, me, worcej, in order), so it's clearly not some out of left field thing. It's also not clear to me that it was a crosspost, and I never really pushed it? I said it was a possibility (one that I think is likely) but I could see it being legit

Here's another reactionary post DL. It's Bona interjecting himself into conversations that call him scummy like this that feels so defensive.

As for the actual content of the post - and this is where I'll actually direct my conversation to Bona :

Maybe we just have different humor but still you were choosing to respond to posts that potentially made you look scummy instead of the countless other ways to express humor (my personal favorite is an attack on Bo)

I'm less concerned with the fact that you disagree with my opening post and more concerned with how you approached it. Again, you focused on discrediting me instead instead of perhaps asking why I voted you and addressing any misunderstandings (it took until DL came in to get to this point).
The whole crosspost thing again felt like a desperate way to discredit me instead of a well thought out idea. If you truly thought I was purposefully posting after seeing ghugs post I think you would have approached it differently.

bro you're calling me scummy what the hell do you think i'm going to do

[Bonatogether]

uh that just seems like he'd say it as either alignment in a similar way?

christ

town!sqoogs doesn't seem to have a reason to make the post that he did on assumption that there's no crosspost

so if we assume no crosspost (which is how i thought things went), sqoogs is likely scum

[DeathLlama8]

like what about that made it seem like he was scum doing some galaxy brain narrative building D1 as opposed to town replying to ghug

[snowy801]

Snowy:

Anyones players read that you disagree with so far and why? It cnat be a read on yourself.

I think I disagree with everything worcej said this game

[DeathLlama8]

oh I think the double negative might be throwing me off

[Bonatogether]

like what about that made it seem like he was scum doing some galaxy brain narrative building D1 as opposed to town replying to ghug

I don't see another explanation for why that would happen if it was not a crosspost (which is what I thought happened)