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Zero Center survive

#1 Post by Crazy Anglican » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:36 pm

How does one occur?

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Re: Zero Center survive

#2 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:42 pm

By being eliminated on the turn someone hits 18. Game ends before the disband phase.
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Re: Zero Center survive

#3 Post by boylee » Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am

What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
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Re: Zero Center survive

#4 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:51 pm

Yeah it's a technicality that to be completely eliminated you need zero SCs and also zero units.

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Re: Zero Center survive

#5 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm

boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.
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Re: Zero Center survive

#6 Post by David E. Cohen » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:25 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm
boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.
By the actual rulebook, a player in this situation cannot participate in a draw. Only players "with pieces on the board" can do so and they "share equally" in a draw. Most platforms have house rules which modify this.
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Re: Zero Center survive

#7 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:35 pm

David E. Cohen wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:25 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm
boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.
By the actual rulebook, a player in this situation cannot participate in a draw. Only players "with pieces on the board" can do so and they "share equally" in a draw. Most platforms have house rules which modify this.
I don't believe this one does.

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