M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[Durga]

Wait before I forget I want to say this is the first time I've been in a mafia game where men were the minority ayyyyy

[Durga]

Whenever I thought about Doom in the past few days my brain went "no d1 vote good" but I guess that's not great d5

Why specifically doom though?

Oh yeah d1 vote good shit

At this point I'm considering everyone

[Durga]

Did doom comment at all last night before hammer??

[DeathLlama8]

they posted once right after rdrivera flipped and never again

hmm we started with 10 guys out of 13 and we've only killed men since then so I guess we kill bunny today and then I get NKed?

[BesharamSabi]

No flavor in interest of expediency. (None of you were reading it anyway)

THEFLYINGBOAT has DIED. He was a LOST SIBLING.

Day has begun. In the interest of expediency, the next deadline is set at 9pm GMT on Wednesday, October 27, 2021.

I read them.

Also rip tfb

[BesharamSabi]

Wait before I forget I want to say this is the first time I've been in a mafia game where men were the minority ayyyyy

Woo team femmes. Down to kill the men folk.

[BesharamSabi]

OK so I thought doom was the lost sibling hence why I backed off her because I thought she was giving not VT vibes because she was lost sibling.

I feel quite dumb now that it was tfb.

Makes sense why ghug soft claimed tfb.

Sooooo my doom feels not VT because scum vibes are back.

[DeathLlama8]

OK so I thought doom was the lost sibling hence why I backed off her because I thought she was giving not VT vibes because she was lost sibling.

I feel quite dumb now that it was tfb.

Makes sense why ghug soft claimed tfb.

Sooooo my doom feels not VT because scum vibes are back.

Anything new ping you about this in the last few days?

[Doom427]

I feel like I already know who the other child is, and if I have an idea scum must know too

were you right

No LOL I thought it was doom

I was trying so hard ;(

But they didn't buy it

[Doom427]

OK so I thought doom was the lost sibling hence why I backed off her because I thought she was giving not VT vibes because she was lost sibling.

I feel quite dumb now that it was tfb.

Makes sense why ghug soft claimed tfb.

Sooooo my doom feels not VT because scum vibes are back.

Yeah, I'm VT. I've been trying to give off PR vibes because I've been trying to get the Night Kill most game. I even did a super obvious and bad crumb as my first post to grab that kill. I was really hoping boat was sleepwalker, ugh.....

[Doom427]

Can't believe I have to decided who I want to kill based on reads, instead of clears Illegal.

[Doom427]

I'm gonna try to do full rereads of everyone, and post them.

Does anyone know when 9 Greenwich time is for like, us? Is it just 4 today?

[Durga]

I'm gonna try to do full rereads of everyone, and post them.

Does anyone know when 9 Greenwich time is for like, us? Is it just 4 today?

I think it's the usual time so 5pm est tomorrow

[Doom427]

Sabi First- b/c easiest

Their posts--
The story of the neverending tunnel on me. They were convinced I was playing differently, and most of their game posts were foccused on that, saying I couldn't have been VT (Sorry to disaapoint).

They also did some jumping on TFB defense of me. We also have the baffling move to vote RDR while getting pressure to save themselves with like, a full day before votes are finalized. It all adds up to... bad signs.

Day 3 they decide I'm actually cool, and probably Lost Sibling, and Damo just... umm... heavily implied that wasn't the case (I was so close to just hard-claim and hope he townread me hard enough to know I was faking it as town)

They also jump on Jamie, feel Jamie is scum, and do vote for him. But that vote was super late, and when the writing was well and fully on the walls.

Ok, let's see how others interact with them-

Umm, there's not much to say, but this was a good quote/discussion between death/flb

uote=TheFlyingBoat post_id=271577 time=1635133284 user_id=13597]

1. sabi was jamiet's second highest scumread for all of d3, and jamiet voted #1 (doom) and #3 (bunny) for the entire day without really pressuring or interacting with sabi at all

> An actually interesting catch, I'll reread their interactions later today, but this could actually be suggestive of something, since I could see Jamie trying to create distance between the two without actually bussing them.

2. sabi brought up unprompted that they townread jamiet and didn't understand where his wagon was coming from (although they said today that they townread everyone), made one post about how bunny's evidence on jamiet seemed solid, then voted for jamiet at eod because he was the biggest wagon and they had to vote someone

>This just strikes me as classic Sabi. As mentioned Sabi, whether town or scum, just seems incredibly scum when put under any pressure as they get incredibly defensive and passive-aggressive. NAI imo for them.

3. otherwise, sabi didn't really give opinions on kakarroto and jamiet for the entire game, explicitly avoiding commenting on kakarroto's claim directly while casting shade on both damo and kakarroto

>Once again, classic Sabi. I saw them do similar things last game. They seem to not want to resolve power claim disputes in their analysis, viewing them all with blanket suspicion while simultaneously hunting for them and trying to out them. It is odd but I would probably also NAI for Sabi.

4. sabi has been openly speculating on PRs in the thread, which I guess is NAI but is also objectively bad

> Agreed and see above.

5. sabi posted a giant case on doom, then didn't really push her at all, and otherwise hasn't really been scumhunting recently

Unfortunately, I feel like am going to be repeating myself a lot. Sabi will have cases on people and not push them at all. Probably NAI for them.

6. I don't really have a reason to townread sabi other than vibes given by individual posts (which I'm not particularly good at interpreting) or believe miskilling sabi before milo would be particularly bad for town

> Agreed. Every now and then I read their posts and think "oh this probably wouldn't be said if they were coached by mafia properly" or "that seems like a bit of a township since it should be fairly obvious, especially for scum" but I just don't know if I can really count on that. Combine that with behavior I said I would scum read if it was literally anyone else and I find myself in a difficult conundrum when it comes to how to handle them.

That being said I do disagree with your last point. I don't think mis-killing Sabi before milo would be that bad beyond the fact that we wasted a shot. But given that they are in my target list, Durga's target list, in your sightlines, and presumably that of others, I think they are a reasonable target with decent chance of success, albeit less than rdr or Bunny, and I think are someone I would prefer to not have for milo for the exact reasons Snowy wanted them there for his planned 1vAll final stand.
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I agree that point 1 is the biggest scum indicator. The others are scummy, But also Sabi. Sabi, ily, but god, you're making this hard for me. I guess I'm also making things hard for you tho, cause you're scumreading me hard. I guess this mafia forum ain't big enough for both of us :-9

In general, I sorta put Sabi as a "If no other option" area. There's plenty of reasons to scumread, but... I don't think they're scum. They could be, and we could be totally fucked here (god, I'm worried about that). Really wish we had some proof one way or the other on Sabi, but that's not happening. Others likely have more reasons to read one way or the other. This big reread is almost entirely NAI.

Heh, Nai... Nya. When we don't know your alignment, you're a catperson. Ok, I had to post that joke, that finishes this first read. I'll do some work, then jump back on for next one

[Doom427]

I FUCKED UP THE QUOTE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

UGHSDUFGHSUDGFOH

Someone at work is gonna see this and fire me and blacklist me from all future tech jobs, I stg. They won't even care about the hours I spent, it'll just be gross incompetency

[Doom427]

Also, how am I suppose to search with the bot about VecGo? He has like, a dozen different nicknames this game. Painful.

I guess I can just search through Jamie/Kak's posts. Everyone else doesn't matter too much (sorry everyone else)

[Durga]

I'm not sure I actually want to attempt reading that, agh

[Doom427]

Ok, I did a quick reread, and...

Town Vecna-
Voted Kak and put him at 2

Scum Vecna-
Only actual comments was a small fight with Snowy over townreading me over an analysis I did.

Town Bunny-
Been doing a lot of readings?

Scum Bunny-
As miller, he didn't get in people's faces this much, like at all? Maybe it comes across differently because it's getting responded to, and there's isn't much else in thread but...It def feels like a different game.
Second point-The killing Ghug thing. I mean, WIFOM and w/e, but pushing Ghug during the night as scummy, and not seeing any traction, so deciding to kill him? Feels v. possible. Esp. cause a big chunk of his argument was Ghug was in charge and not scoring any kills.

All of my scumreads last game were... wrong? So this one probs is too, but

Ok, basically nothing much has changed here. One new piece of info I found is Vecna shitposting here-

I regret to inform you HATERS and LOSERS that the peterbot is down indefinitely. I will provide frequent vote count updates like we used to do it back in my day [sips Coke Zero] but you will have to do your rereading old-school.

Game starts in just under an hour.

Oh ok.

he called you a hater and a loser jamiet.

You just gonna accept that?

Which seems to be an attempt to egg Jamie on (mad jamie is town Jamie, maybe tell teammate to be mad...??? Yeah, I don't really buy it either. Jamie also was always sorta unsure about whether or not Bunny is scum, and seems to push Bunny/Vec quite a bit. Not super much, I guess, but..

hm I actually think the entire Kakarroto wagon D1 might just be town now? Bunny hasn't done anything alignment indicative IMO and Vecna voting scum Kakarroto without catching up, sort of making him a wagon while also meaning he'd get no credit if it went through seems good. idt Doom busses there either.

reread pool is {tfb, rdrivera, jamiet, sabi} when I have time. Jamie posted 45 times yesterday apparently and somehow none of them left any impression on me

Except you are giving him credit, right there.

Among other small pushes for scum bunny. It could be fake, and a way to distance Bunny, but...I guess I just think scum wouldn't push Ghug as Hard, and get in as big a fight. But... hell, I don't know. Not me actually townreading Bunny after this whole game? But.. yeah... Crap. :-_(

[Durga]

##vote bunny

[President Eden]

for the bot:

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