M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[DemonRHK]

A lot of the "greatest of all time" games from the 90s and early 00s end up massively showing their age as things progress. It's the nerd equivalent of glorifying sports stars from the 50s and 60s. Most of those 90s-00s era games are more relevant for what they represented in their time rather than how well they objectively stand up to decades of development.

This goes both ways. While a game like say FF6 or FF7 isn't as polished as FF15, I'd argue the first two are more complete and much better overall games.

And Morrowind is better than Skyrim FUCKIN FITE ME

[ghug]

Doom, traditional turn based, strategy, or action?

That's impossible, ugh!

But I've played every single Fire Emblem, and most of the other big strategy classics, so probably that, than action, than turn based. Cause there's a lot of turn based games out there that, oof.

How about y'all?

Forum mafia for me

[Doom427]

A lot of the "greatest of all time" games from the 90s and early 00s end up massively showing their age as things progress. It's the nerd equivalent of glorifying sports stars from the 50s and 60s. Most of those 90s-00s era games are more relevant for what they represented in their time rather than how well they objectively stand up to decades of development.

Yeah- But I don't even think chrno or Ocarina were good for their time. I guess OoT can get minor points for trying out 3d?

[Doom427]

A lot of the "greatest of all time" games from the 90s and early 00s end up massively showing their age as things progress. It's the nerd equivalent of glorifying sports stars from the 50s and 60s. Most of those 90s-00s era games are more relevant for what they represented in their time rather than how well they objectively stand up to decades of development.

This goes both ways. While a game like say FF6 or FF7 isn't as polished as FF15, I'd argue the first two are more complete and much better overall games.

And Morrowind is better than Skyrim FUCKIN FITE ME

Lol, actuak opinion I avoid saying at my nerdy workplace-Skyrim is super lame and sucks. That would totally get me fired

[Doom427]

Doom, traditional turn based, strategy, or action?

That's impossible, ugh!

But I've played every single Fire Emblem, and most of the other big strategy classics, so probably that, than action, than turn based. Cause there's a lot of turn based games out there that, oof.

How about y'all?

Forum mafia for me

Wow, you're a real crazy one. Hard drugs sounds like a healthier past time

[ghug]

That's impossible, ugh!

But I've played every single Fire Emblem, and most of the other big strategy classics, so probably that, than action, than turn based. Cause there's a lot of turn based games out there that, oof.

How about y'all?

Forum mafia for me

Wow, you're a real crazy one. Hard drugs sounds like a healthier past time

I like those too

[President Eden]

A lot of the "greatest of all time" games from the 90s and early 00s end up massively showing their age as things progress. It's the nerd equivalent of glorifying sports stars from the 50s and 60s. Most of those 90s-00s era games are more relevant for what they represented in their time rather than how well they objectively stand up to decades of development.

This goes both ways. While a game like say FF6 or FF7 isn't as polished as FF15, I'd argue the first two are more complete and much better overall games.

And Morrowind is better than Skyrim FUCKIN FITE ME

Well, you can certainly have newer releases that are just not good games, and you'd still take some of the jewels from a previous era over them easily.

The difference really is the story. Take FF6 vs Ocarina of Time. FF6 had some interesting innovations for the time, but it also had an amazing story, which is why it still endures as a great game even 25 years later. OoT's claim to fame is essentially "Zelda, but 3D" which, in hindsight, meant it was inevitably going to be overshadowed as "but 3D" went from being revolutionary to mundane.

[TheFlyingBoat]

The god topic sucked. The mafia topic was awesome. I wish snowy could have been in both...cool to see that kgray was the oracle.

[BunnyGo]

Yes!! Undertale is the first RPG I’ve played in years. It’s very good. Maybe that’s why chrono doesn’t register is that many games tried to emulate it. So it doesn’t seem original anymore.

I think the genre as a whole might just be pretty outdated? At least the genre Chrono Trigger is critiquing. (Final Fantasy was the most famous RPG and has long since changed it's genre)

Shin Megami tensei is right there if you want an actual fun and interesting JRPG critique. All your friends are evil and America drops the nuke. What's not to love.

Thanks for the recommendation.

[DemonRHK]

Doom, traditional turn based, strategy, or action?

That's impossible, ugh!

But I've played every single Fire Emblem, and most of the other big strategy classics, so probably that, than action, than turn based. Cause there's a lot of turn based games out there that, oof.

How about y'all?

Strategy, Turn, and then Action overall

BUT

The top list for me is (Just RPGs)

FF6
Morrowind
FFT
Lunar 1
FF7
Front Mission 3
New Vegas
Vanguard Bandits
Chrono Trigger
Disgaea 2
SMT: Digital Devil Saga

[President Eden]

A lot of the "greatest of all time" games from the 90s and early 00s end up massively showing their age as things progress. It's the nerd equivalent of glorifying sports stars from the 50s and 60s. Most of those 90s-00s era games are more relevant for what they represented in their time rather than how well they objectively stand up to decades of development.

Yeah- But I don't even think chrno or Ocarina were good for their time. I guess OoT can get minor points for trying out 3d?

OoT specifically got a ton of hype and accolades for being revolutionary in its gameplay for 1998. Its gameplay was pretty great for 1998 and doesn't stand up now for obvious reasons.

Chrono Trigger is harder for me to evaluate as I haven't played it all the way through, and only barely touched it close to 20 years after it came out, so I don't have the same "in the moment" perspective to understand its historical worth.

[ghug]

Y'all are overlooking Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic again.

[snowy801]

The god topic sucked. The mafia topic was awesome. I wish snowy could have been in both...cool to see that kgray was the oracle.

It was inevitable the moment someone told me I was in Monologue Mode

There could be only one conclusion

[President Eden]

Y'all are overlooking Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic again.

Another good example of a game that didn't age well from a gameplay perspective but had a strong enough story to survive the test of time

[Doom427]

Doom, traditional turn based, strategy, or action?

That's impossible, ugh!

But I've played every single Fire Emblem, and most of the other big strategy classics, so probably that, than action, than turn based. Cause there's a lot of turn based games out there that, oof.

How about y'all?

Strategy, Turn, and then Action overall

BUT

The top list for me is (Just RPGs)

FF6
Morrowind
FFT
Lunar 1
FF7
Front Mission 3
New Vegas
Vanguard Bandits
Chrono Trigger
Disgaea 2
SMT: Digital Devil Saga

Oh my god I was gonna mention DDS as having a great twist with it's silent protag. Lol.

I'm actully doing FM3 in between work (but Mafia took up too much time to keep that going) FFT is great too, but pls play Let us Cling Together if you liked it. I prefer the SNES release, but psp remake is... Well, some people prefer it.

[DemonRHK]

Y'all are overlooking Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic again.

KotOR is great, but my big thing is the game has an awesome story but the game feels so short. You can't get invested in places after Taris because you're gone so quick. The MMO has amazing story, and I always reccomend everyone should play it singler player just for the story.

[Doom427]

Y'all are overlooking Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic again.

Another good example of a game that didn't age well from a gameplay perspective but had a strong enough story to survive the test of time

Hides self away with a quiet (I like the gameplay more than story there... But revan's cool)

[DemonRHK]

Tactics Ogre? It's on one of my memory cards. Ain't seen a copy in 15 years tho.

[snowy801]

I'm not really an RPG guy but I really liked FE:3H

[President Eden]

oh demon, have you worked in food service before? your writing is so strong